From bzajac at geostaff.com  Mon Aug  2 11:27:56 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:27:56 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: Orca process 'stuttering'...and coring,
 eventually. (SE cored, actually)
References: <37A24D3D.20D17CA7@raytheon.com> <19990730201555.C21735@sfx.com>
Message-ID: <37A5E32C.99BD9C64@geostaff.com>

This could be a Solaris 2.5.1 issue.  I haven't seen it on any Solaris
2.6 or 7 boxes.  The various problems I've seen on Solaris 2.5.1 are
ever expanding memory usage and very rarely the stutter problem.  But
mostly the memory problem.  Using the exact same SE orcallator.se
script on 2.6 or 7 does not generate the problem, so it appears to
be a SE on 2.5.1 problem.  However, only version 3.0 of SE is
supported on 2.5.1.  The SE 3.1 is only supported on 2.6 or above, so
I don't think we'll get much help on this from the SE people.

Blair


foo wrote:
> 
> From: foo <foo+orca at eek.org>
> 
> I have almost the exact same problem on one of my most heavily
> loaded servers. It stutters for no apparent reason... I havent
> had a core yet (I dont think). It's an Ultra 2 running 2.5.1
> 
> -Brian
> 
> Mike DuFresne wrote:
> > Blair, I accidentally deleted the e-mail where you asked to be forwarded
> > this info. This gif is the daily active processes. The server it is
> > installed on is an Ultra Enterprise 4500 with 4 cpus running Solaris
> > 2.5.1 with up to date patches. This machine is a file server for
> > approximately 500 users. SE 3.0 was installed and patched according to
> > the SE website.
> >
> > Orca was compiled with perl-5.005.03 and gcc-2.8.1 ( I have since
> > reverted this box to 2.7.2.1 ).
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
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From MauroDR at ccpci.com  Tue Aug  3 13:03:19 1999
From: MauroDR at ccpci.com (Mauro, Douglas R)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:03:19 -0400 
Subject: [Orca-users] Thoughts?
Message-ID: <4B87D5F37B57D111B6EC0060089A9118E8EA4E@newman.ccpci.com>


BTW:  I tried to subscribe to orca-help online but couldn't.  The link just
hung.

I am trying to install Orca on Solaris 2.5.1.  Currently I have installed:

Name		Version		Install Location
--------		----------
---------------------------------
Orca		0.23		/opt/orca
SE		3.0		/opt/RICHPse
Rrd		1.0.3		/usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.3

I ran the orca coinfigure with the following:
./configure --prefix=/opt/orca --with-html-dir=/opt/OV/httpd/htdocs

No problems.

I am guessing that the html-dir is a directory that is accessible through
the WWW?

Reading through INSTALL...

[root][nms] /opt/orca> ./bin/start_orcallator
Writing data into /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/
Starting logging
[root][nms] /opt/orca>

It was unclear at first glance what I should edit in the .cfg file so I left
it alone.

When I tried starting and/or running orca after I saw some data files
written I got:

[root][nms] /opt/orca> ./bin/orca -v lib/orcallator.cfg
Orca version 0.23 using RRDs version 1.000031.
Creating orca.gif.
Creating rrdtool.gif.
./bin/orca: warning: cannot open state file
`/opt/orca/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state' for reading: No such file or
directory
Finding files and setting up data structures at Tue Aug  3 16:07:53 1999.
  /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03
./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data #httpds' in plot
#3 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to1KB' in plot #6
in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to10KB' in plot
#6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to100KB' in plot
#6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to1MB' in plot #6
in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %over1MB' in plot
#6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot #6 `data %to1KB':
sub {
  return %to1KB;
}

Output: Global symbol "%to1KB" requires explicit package name at (eval 14)
line 2, <FD> chunk 1.

./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot #6 `data %to10KB':
sub {
  return %to10KB;
}

Output: Global symbol "%to1MB" requires explicit package name at (eval 17)
line 2, <FD> chunk 1.

./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot #6 `data %over1MB':
sub {
  return %over1MB;
}

Output: Global symbol "%over1MB" requires explicit package name at (eval 18)
line 2, <FD> chunk 1.

./bin/orca: Orca::GIFFile::new passed empty @rrds_ref reference.
        Orca::GIFFile::new('Orca::GIFFile', 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)', 'orcallator', 'nms', '',
'orcallator_%to1KB,
rcallator_%to10KB,orcallator_%to100KB,orcalla...', ...) called at ./bin/orca
line 1493
 
Orca::SourceDataFile::add_plots('Orca::SourceDataFile=HASH(0x202b34)',
'HASH(0x1fc0b8)', 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)', 'orcallat
r', 'nms', 'HASH(0x20db58)', 'HASH(0x211d10)') called at ./bin/orca line
2598
        main::find_files('lib/orcallator.cfg', 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)', 'HASH(0x1ccfec)', 'HASH(0x20db7c)',
'HASH
0x20db58)', 'HASH(0x211d10)') called at ./bin/orca line 1836
        main::watch_data_sources('lib/orcallator.cfg', 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)') called at ./bin/orca line 1739
        main::main('lib/orcallator.cfg') called at ./bin/orca line 1718
[root][nms] /opt/orca>

I feel like I am missing the big picture.  What does is the orcalator.se
file used for?  Am I supposed to run these things by hand?  Is this the same
for rrd?

    Douglas R. Mauro
-------------------------
Corning Consumer Products
  Technical Team Leader
  Network Administrator

Phone:  607.377.8538
Fax:    607.377.8539
E-Mail: maurodr at ccpci.com <mailto:maurodr at ccpci.com> 




From bzajac at geostaff.com  Tue Aug  3 13:19:39 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 13:19:39 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: Thoughts?
References: <4B87D5F37B57D111B6EC0060089A9118E8EA4E@newman.ccpci.com>
Message-ID: <37A74EDB.6879B97B@geostaff.com>

"Mauro, Douglas R" wrote:
> 
> BTW:  I tried to subscribe to orca-help online but couldn't.  The link just
> hung.


Which link was this?  I'd try again in a while.


> 
> I am trying to install Orca on Solaris 2.5.1.  Currently I have installed:
> 
> Name            Version         Install Location
> --------                ----------
> ---------------------------------
> Orca            0.23            /opt/orca
> SE              3.0             /opt/RICHPse
> Rrd             1.0.3           /usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.3
> 
> I ran the orca coinfigure with the following:
> ./configure --prefix=/opt/orca --with-html-dir=/opt/OV/httpd/htdocs
> 
> No problems.
> 
> I am guessing that the html-dir is a directory that is accessible through
> the WWW?

Yes, this is correct.

> 
> Reading through INSTALL...
> 
> [root][nms] /opt/orca> ./bin/start_orcallator
> Writing data into /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/
> Starting logging
> [root][nms] /opt/orca>
> 
> It was unclear at first glance what I should edit in the .cfg file so I left
> it alone.
> 
> When I tried starting and/or running orca after I saw some data files
> written I got:
> 
> [root][nms] /opt/orca> ./bin/orca -v lib/orcallator.cfg
> Orca version 0.23 using RRDs version 1.000031.
> Creating orca.gif.
> Creating rrdtool.gif.
> ./bin/orca: warning: cannot open state file
> `/opt/orca/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state' for reading: No such file or
> directory
> Finding files and setting up data structures at Tue Aug  3 16:07:53 1999.
>   /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03
> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data #httpds' in plot
> #3 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to1KB' in plot #6
> in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to10KB' in plot
> #6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to100KB' in plot
> #6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to1MB' in plot #6
> in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %over1MB' in plot
> #6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
> ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot #6 `data %to1KB':
> sub {
>   return %to1KB;
> }
> 
> Output: Global symbol "%to1KB" requires explicit package name at (eval 14)
> line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
> 
> ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot #6 `data %to10KB':
> sub {
>   return %to10KB;
> }
> 
> Output: Global symbol "%to1MB" requires explicit package name at (eval 17)
> line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
> 
> ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot #6 `data %over1MB':
> sub {
>   return %over1MB;
> }
> 
> Output: Global symbol "%over1MB" requires explicit package name at (eval 18)
> line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
> 
> ./bin/orca: Orca::GIFFile::new passed empty @rrds_ref reference.
>         Orca::GIFFile::new('Orca::GIFFile', 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
> 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)', 'orcallator', 'nms', '',
> 'orcallator_%to1KB,
> rcallator_%to10KB,orcallator_%to100KB,orcalla...', ...) called at ./bin/orca
> line 1493
> 
> Orca::SourceDataFile::add_plots('Orca::SourceDataFile=HASH(0x202b34)',
> 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)', 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)', 'orcallat
> r', 'nms', 'HASH(0x20db58)', 'HASH(0x211d10)') called at ./bin/orca line
> 2598
>         main::find_files('lib/orcallator.cfg', 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
> 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)', 'HASH(0x1ccfec)', 'HASH(0x20db7c)',
> 'HASH
> 0x20db58)', 'HASH(0x211d10)') called at ./bin/orca line 1836
>         main::watch_data_sources('lib/orcallator.cfg', 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
> 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)') called at ./bin/orca line 1739
>         main::main('lib/orcallator.cfg') called at ./bin/orca line 1718
> [root][nms] /opt/orca>
> 
> I feel like I am missing the big picture.  What does is the orcalator.se
> file used for?  Am I supposed to run these things by hand?  Is this the same
> for rrd?

Actually, you're pretty close here.  Orcallator.se is the data gathering tool
that is run on each Sun system.  In this case, it does not look like you are
watching your web server statistics, so Orca is failing.  This is a bug that
will be fixed in the next release of Orca.  For now, there are two solutions
to the bug.  One is to enable web server watching in orcallator.se on all your
hosts.  The second is to remove from orcallator.cfg the plot { ... } lines
that mention web serving until Orca does not complain.

The only think you'll probably want to change in orcallator.cfg are the
html_* settings to be specific for your site.

Cheers,
Blair



> 
>     Douglas R. Mauro
> -------------------------
> Corning Consumer Products
>   Technical Team Leader
>   Network Administrator
> 
> Phone:  607.377.8538
> Fax:    607.377.8539
> E-Mail: maurodr at ccpci.com <mailto:maurodr at ccpci.com>


From MauroDR at ccpci.com  Tue Aug  3 13:22:37 1999
From: MauroDR at ccpci.com (Mauro, Douglas R)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:22:37 -0400 
Subject: [Orca-users] RE: Thoughts?
Message-ID: <4B87D5F37B57D111B6EC0060089A9118E8EA51@newman.ccpci.com>


To enable web server watching do I recompile with:
./configure --prefix=/opt/orca --with-html-dir=/opt/OV/httpd/htdocs
--with-TYPE-log=/var/opt/OV/log/httpd_access_log
??
Or do I have to edit the .se file manually?

BTW:  Should I be running by hand: $ se lib/orcallator.se & 

Thanks for the help, I'm looking forward to getting this up and running!

    Douglas R. Mauro
-------------------------
Corning Consumer Products
  Technical Team Leader
  Network Administrator

Phone:  607.377.8538
Fax:    607.377.8539
E-Mail: maurodr at ccpci.com <mailto:maurodr at ccpci.com> 


	----------
	From:  Blair Zajac [SMTP:bzajac at geostaff.com]
	Sent:  Tuesday, August 03, 1999 4:20 PM
	To:  Mauro, Douglas R
	Cc:  Orca Help Mailing List
	Subject:  Re: Thoughts?

	"Mauro, Douglas R" wrote:
	> 
	> BTW:  I tried to subscribe to orca-help online but couldn't.  The
link just
	> hung.


	Which link was this?  I'd try again in a while.


	> 
	> I am trying to install Orca on Solaris 2.5.1.  Currently I have
installed:
	> 
	> Name            Version         Install Location
	> --------                ----------
	> ---------------------------------
	> Orca            0.23            /opt/orca
	> SE              3.0             /opt/RICHPse
	> Rrd             1.0.3           /usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.3
	> 
	> I ran the orca coinfigure with the following:
	> ./configure --prefix=/opt/orca
--with-html-dir=/opt/OV/httpd/htdocs
	> 
	> No problems.
	> 
	> I am guessing that the html-dir is a directory that is accessible
through
	> the WWW?

	Yes, this is correct.

	> 
	> Reading through INSTALL...
	> 
	> [root][nms] /opt/orca> ./bin/start_orcallator
	> Writing data into /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/
	> Starting logging
	> [root][nms] /opt/orca>
	> 
	> It was unclear at first glance what I should edit in the .cfg file
so I left
	> it alone.
	> 
	> When I tried starting and/or running orca after I saw some data
files
	> written I got:
	> 
	> [root][nms] /opt/orca> ./bin/orca -v lib/orcallator.cfg
	> Orca version 0.23 using RRDs version 1.000031.
	> Creating orca.gif.
	> Creating rrdtool.gif.
	> ./bin/orca: warning: cannot open state file
	> `/opt/orca/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state' for reading: No
such file or
	> directory
	> Finding files and setting up data structures at Tue Aug  3
16:07:53 1999.
	>   /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03
	> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data #httpds'
in plot
	> #3 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to1KB'
in plot #6
	> in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to10KB'
in plot
	> #6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data
%to100KB' in plot
	> #6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to1MB'
in plot #6
	> in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data
%over1MB' in plot
	> #6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	> ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot #6 `data
%to1KB':
	> sub {
	>   return %to1KB;
	> }
	> 
	> Output: Global symbol "%to1KB" requires explicit package name at
(eval 14)
	> line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
	> 
	> ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot #6 `data
%to10KB':
	> sub {
	>   return %to10KB;
	> }
	> 
	> Output: Global symbol "%to1MB" requires explicit package name at
(eval 17)
	> line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
	> 
	> ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot #6 `data
%over1MB':
	> sub {
	>   return %over1MB;
	> }
	> 
	> Output: Global symbol "%over1MB" requires explicit package name at
(eval 18)
	> line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
	> 
	> ./bin/orca: Orca::GIFFile::new passed empty @rrds_ref reference.
	>         Orca::GIFFile::new('Orca::GIFFile', 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
	> 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)', 'orcallator', 'nms', '',
	> 'orcallator_%to1KB,
	> rcallator_%to10KB,orcallator_%to100KB,orcalla...', ...) called at
./bin/orca
	> line 1493
	> 
	>
Orca::SourceDataFile::add_plots('Orca::SourceDataFile=HASH(0x202b34)',
	> 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)', 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)', 'orcallat
	> r', 'nms', 'HASH(0x20db58)', 'HASH(0x211d10)') called at
./bin/orca line
	> 2598
	>         main::find_files('lib/orcallator.cfg', 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
	> 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)', 'HASH(0x1ccfec)',
'HASH(0x20db7c)',
	> 'HASH
	> 0x20db58)', 'HASH(0x211d10)') called at ./bin/orca line 1836
	>         main::watch_data_sources('lib/orcallator.cfg',
'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
	> 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)') called at ./bin/orca line
1739
	>         main::main('lib/orcallator.cfg') called at ./bin/orca line
1718
	> [root][nms] /opt/orca>
	> 
	> I feel like I am missing the big picture.  What does is the
orcalator.se
	> file used for?  Am I supposed to run these things by hand?  Is
this the same
	> for rrd?

	Actually, you're pretty close here.  Orcallator.se is the data
gathering tool
	that is run on each Sun system.  In this case, it does not look like
you are
	watching your web server statistics, so Orca is failing.  This is a
bug that
	will be fixed in the next release of Orca.  For now, there are two
solutions
	to the bug.  One is to enable web server watching in orcallator.se
on all your
	hosts.  The second is to remove from orcallator.cfg the plot { ... }
lines
	that mention web serving until Orca does not complain.

	The only think you'll probably want to change in orcallator.cfg are
the
	html_* settings to be specific for your site.

	Cheers,
	Blair



	> 
	>     Douglas R. Mauro
	> -------------------------
	> Corning Consumer Products
	>   Technical Team Leader
	>   Network Administrator
	> 
	> Phone:  607.377.8538
	> Fax:    607.377.8539
	> E-Mail: maurodr at ccpci.com <mailto:maurodr at ccpci.com><<File:
bzajac.vcf>>



From bzajac at geostaff.com  Tue Aug  3 13:31:56 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 13:31:56 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: Thoughts?
References: <4B87D5F37B57D111B6EC0060089A9118E8EA51@newman.ccpci.com>
Message-ID: <37A751BB.2558000@geostaff.com>

Yes, you use the with-TYPE-log configure option.  This will set up
start_orcallator correctly with all the proper environmental and
command line options to run lib/orcallator.se.  While you can run
`se lib/orcallator.se' by hand, it will not watch everything you
want and will not save the data files onto disk, rather output the
data to your tty.  So you should run start_orcallator instead.

Blair


"Mauro, Douglas R" wrote:
> 
> To enable web server watching do I recompile with:
> ./configure --prefix=/opt/orca --with-html-dir=/opt/OV/httpd/htdocs
> --with-TYPE-log=/var/opt/OV/log/httpd_access_log
> ??
> Or do I have to edit the .se file manually?
> 
> BTW:  Should I be running by hand: $ se lib/orcallator.se &
> 
> Thanks for the help, I'm looking forward to getting this up and running!
> 
>     Douglas R. Mauro
> -------------------------
> Corning Consumer Products
>   Technical Team Leader
>   Network Administrator
> 
> Phone:  607.377.8538
> Fax:    607.377.8539
> E-Mail: maurodr at ccpci.com <mailto:maurodr at ccpci.com>
> 
>         ----------
>         From:  Blair Zajac [SMTP:bzajac at geostaff.com]
>         Sent:  Tuesday, August 03, 1999 4:20 PM
>         To:  Mauro, Douglas R
>         Cc:  Orca Help Mailing List
>         Subject:  Re: Thoughts?
> 
>         "Mauro, Douglas R" wrote:
>         >
>         > BTW:  I tried to subscribe to orca-help online but couldn't.  The
> link just
>         > hung.
> 
>         Which link was this?  I'd try again in a while.
> 
>         >
>         > I am trying to install Orca on Solaris 2.5.1.  Currently I have
> installed:
>         >
>         > Name            Version         Install Location
>         > --------                ----------
>         > ---------------------------------
>         > Orca            0.23            /opt/orca
>         > SE              3.0             /opt/RICHPse
>         > Rrd             1.0.3           /usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.3
>         >
>         > I ran the orca coinfigure with the following:
>         > ./configure --prefix=/opt/orca
> --with-html-dir=/opt/OV/httpd/htdocs
>         >
>         > No problems.
>         >
>         > I am guessing that the html-dir is a directory that is accessible
> through
>         > the WWW?
> 
>         Yes, this is correct.
> 
>         >
>         > Reading through INSTALL...
>         >
>         > [root][nms] /opt/orca> ./bin/start_orcallator
>         > Writing data into /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/
>         > Starting logging
>         > [root][nms] /opt/orca>
>         >
>         > It was unclear at first glance what I should edit in the .cfg file
> so I left
>         > it alone.
>         >
>         > When I tried starting and/or running orca after I saw some data
> files
>         > written I got:
>         >
>         > [root][nms] /opt/orca> ./bin/orca -v lib/orcallator.cfg
>         > Orca version 0.23 using RRDs version 1.000031.
>         > Creating orca.gif.
>         > Creating rrdtool.gif.
>         > ./bin/orca: warning: cannot open state file
>         > `/opt/orca/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state' for reading: No
> such file or
>         > directory
>         > Finding files and setting up data structures at Tue Aug  3
> 16:07:53 1999.
>         >   /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03
>         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data #httpds'
> in plot
>         > #3 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
>         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to1KB'
> in plot #6
>         > in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
>         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to10KB'
> in plot
>         > #6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
>         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data
> %to100KB' in plot
>         > #6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
>         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to1MB'
> in plot #6
>         > in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
>         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data
> %over1MB' in plot
>         > #6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
>         > ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot #6 `data
> %to1KB':
>         > sub {
>         >   return %to1KB;
>         > }
>         >
>         > Output: Global symbol "%to1KB" requires explicit package name at
> (eval 14)
>         > line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
>         >
>         > ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot #6 `data
> %to10KB':
>         > sub {
>         >   return %to10KB;
>         > }
>         >
>         > Output: Global symbol "%to1MB" requires explicit package name at
> (eval 17)
>         > line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
>         >
>         > ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot #6 `data
> %over1MB':
>         > sub {
>         >   return %over1MB;
>         > }
>         >
>         > Output: Global symbol "%over1MB" requires explicit package name at
> (eval 18)
>         > line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
>         >
>         > ./bin/orca: Orca::GIFFile::new passed empty @rrds_ref reference.
>         >         Orca::GIFFile::new('Orca::GIFFile', 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
>         > 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)', 'orcallator', 'nms', '',
>         > 'orcallator_%to1KB,
>         > rcallator_%to10KB,orcallator_%to100KB,orcalla...', ...) called at
> ./bin/orca
>         > line 1493
>         >
>         >
> Orca::SourceDataFile::add_plots('Orca::SourceDataFile=HASH(0x202b34)',
>         > 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)', 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)', 'orcallat
>         > r', 'nms', 'HASH(0x20db58)', 'HASH(0x211d10)') called at
> ./bin/orca line
>         > 2598
>         >         main::find_files('lib/orcallator.cfg', 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
>         > 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)', 'HASH(0x1ccfec)',
> 'HASH(0x20db7c)',
>         > 'HASH
>         > 0x20db58)', 'HASH(0x211d10)') called at ./bin/orca line 1836
>         >         main::watch_data_sources('lib/orcallator.cfg',
> 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
>         > 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)') called at ./bin/orca line
> 1739
>         >         main::main('lib/orcallator.cfg') called at ./bin/orca line
> 1718
>         > [root][nms] /opt/orca>
>         >
>         > I feel like I am missing the big picture.  What does is the
> orcalator.se
>         > file used for?  Am I supposed to run these things by hand?  Is
> this the same
>         > for rrd?
> 
>         Actually, you're pretty close here.  Orcallator.se is the data
> gathering tool
>         that is run on each Sun system.  In this case, it does not look like
> you are
>         watching your web server statistics, so Orca is failing.  This is a
> bug that
>         will be fixed in the next release of Orca.  For now, there are two
> solutions
>         to the bug.  One is to enable web server watching in orcallator.se
> on all your
>         hosts.  The second is to remove from orcallator.cfg the plot { ... }
> lines
>         that mention web serving until Orca does not complain.
> 
>         The only think you'll probably want to change in orcallator.cfg are
> the
>         html_* settings to be specific for your site.
> 
>         Cheers,
>         Blair
> 
>         >
>         >     Douglas R. Mauro
>         > -------------------------
>         > Corning Consumer Products
>         >   Technical Team Leader
>         >   Network Administrator
>         >
>         > Phone:  607.377.8538
>         > Fax:    607.377.8539
>         > E-Mail: maurodr at ccpci.com <mailto:maurodr at ccpci.com><<File:
> bzajac.vcf>>


From MauroDR at ccpci.com  Tue Aug  3 13:47:07 1999
From: MauroDR at ccpci.com (Mauro, Douglas R)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:47:07 -0400 
Subject: [Orca-users] Same Problems...
Message-ID: <4B87D5F37B57D111B6EC0060089A9118E8EA53@newman.ccpci.com>


Hmmm... I did a:
3764  make dist
3765  make distclean
3766  ./configure --prefix=/opt/orca --with-html-dir=/opt/OV/httpd/htdocs
--with-ncsa-log=/var/opt/OV/log/httpd_access_log
3767  make
3768  make install

no real issues (couple of warnings about pod2html)

Waited 15 minutes (even generated some WWW traffic) and I am still getting
the same error(s):

I noticed that in orcallator.se that it does not have WATCH_HTTP?  Should
it?

! Clipped Here
// Define the different parts of the system you want to examine.
#ifdef WATCH_OS
#define WATCH_CPU
#define WATCH_MUTEX
#define WATCH_NET
#define WATCH_TCP
#define WATCH_NFS
#define WATCH_DISK
#define WATCH_DNLC
#define WATCH_INODE
#define WATCH_RAM
#define WATCH_PAGES
#endif

#include <stdio.se>
! Clipped Here

What writes this "orca.state" file??

[root][nms] /opt/orca> ./bin/orca -v lib/orcallator.cfg
Orca version 0.23 using RRDs version 1.000031.
Creating orca.gif.
Creating rrdtool.gif.
./bin/orca: warning: cannot open state file
`/opt/orca/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state' for reading: No such file or
directory
Finding files and setting up data structures at Tue Aug  3 16:52:06 1999.
  /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03
./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data #httpds' in plot
#3 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to1KB' in plot #6
in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to10KB' in plot
#6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to100KB' in plot
#6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to1MB' in plot #6
in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %over1MB' in plot
#6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot #6 `data %to1KB':
sub {
  return %to1KB;
}

Output: Global symbol "%to1KB" requ

! CLIPPED
! CLIPPED!!!!

    Douglas R. Mauro
-------------------------
Corning Consumer Products
  Technical Team Leader
  Network Administrator

Phone:  607.377.8538
Fax:    607.377.8539
E-Mail: maurodr at ccpci.com <mailto:maurodr at ccpci.com> 


	----------
	From:  Blair Zajac [SMTP:bzajac at geostaff.com]
	Sent:  Tuesday, August 03, 1999 4:32 PM
	To:  Mauro, Douglas R
	Cc:  Orca Help Mailing List
	Subject:  Re: Thoughts?

	Yes, you use the with-TYPE-log configure option.  This will set up
	start_orcallator correctly with all the proper environmental and
	command line options to run lib/orcallator.se.  While you can run
	`se lib/orcallator.se' by hand, it will not watch everything you
	want and will not save the data files onto disk, rather output the
	data to your tty.  So you should run start_orcallator instead.

	Blair


	"Mauro, Douglas R" wrote:
	> 
	> To enable web server watching do I recompile with:
	> ./configure --prefix=/opt/orca
--with-html-dir=/opt/OV/httpd/htdocs
	> --with-TYPE-log=/var/opt/OV/log/httpd_access_log
	> ??
	> Or do I have to edit the .se file manually?
	> 
	> BTW:  Should I be running by hand: $ se lib/orcallator.se &
	> 
	> Thanks for the help, I'm looking forward to getting this up and
running!
	> 
	>     Douglas R. Mauro
	> -------------------------
	> Corning Consumer Products
	>   Technical Team Leader
	>   Network Administrator
	> 
	> Phone:  607.377.8538
	> Fax:    607.377.8539
	> E-Mail: maurodr at ccpci.com <mailto:maurodr at ccpci.com>
	> 
	>         ----------
	>         From:  Blair Zajac [SMTP:bzajac at geostaff.com]
	>         Sent:  Tuesday, August 03, 1999 4:20 PM
	>         To:  Mauro, Douglas R
	>         Cc:  Orca Help Mailing List
	>         Subject:  Re: Thoughts?
	> 
	>         "Mauro, Douglas R" wrote:
	>         >
	>         > BTW:  I tried to subscribe to orca-help online but
couldn't.  The
	> link just
	>         > hung.
	> 
	>         Which link was this?  I'd try again in a while.
	> 
	>         >
	>         > I am trying to install Orca on Solaris 2.5.1.  Currently
I have
	> installed:
	>         >
	>         > Name            Version         Install Location
	>         > --------                ----------
	>         > ---------------------------------
	>         > Orca            0.23            /opt/orca
	>         > SE              3.0             /opt/RICHPse
	>         > Rrd             1.0.3           /usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.3
	>         >
	>         > I ran the orca coinfigure with the following:
	>         > ./configure --prefix=/opt/orca
	> --with-html-dir=/opt/OV/httpd/htdocs
	>         >
	>         > No problems.
	>         >
	>         > I am guessing that the html-dir is a directory that is
accessible
	> through
	>         > the WWW?
	> 
	>         Yes, this is correct.
	> 
	>         >
	>         > Reading through INSTALL...
	>         >
	>         > [root][nms] /opt/orca> ./bin/start_orcallator
	>         > Writing data into /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/
	>         > Starting logging
	>         > [root][nms] /opt/orca>
	>         >
	>         > It was unclear at first glance what I should edit in the
.cfg file
	> so I left
	>         > it alone.
	>         >
	>         > When I tried starting and/or running orca after I saw
some data
	> files
	>         > written I got:
	>         >
	>         > [root][nms] /opt/orca> ./bin/orca -v lib/orcallator.cfg
	>         > Orca version 0.23 using RRDs version 1.000031.
	>         > Creating orca.gif.
	>         > Creating rrdtool.gif.
	>         > ./bin/orca: warning: cannot open state file
	>         > `/opt/orca/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state' for
reading: No
	> such file or
	>         > directory
	>         > Finding files and setting up data structures at Tue Aug
3
	> 16:07:53 1999.
	>         >   /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03
	>         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for
`data #httpds'
	> in plot
	>         > #3 in
`/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	>         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for
`data %to1KB'
	> in plot #6
	>         > in
`/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	>         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for
`data %to10KB'
	> in plot
	>         > #6 in
`/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	>         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for
`data
	> %to100KB' in plot
	>         > #6 in
`/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	>         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for
`data %to1MB'
	> in plot #6
	>         > in
`/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	>         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for
`data
	> %over1MB' in plot
	>         > #6 in
`/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	>         > ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot
#6 `data
	> %to1KB':
	>         > sub {
	>         >   return %to1KB;
	>         > }
	>         >
	>         > Output: Global symbol "%to1KB" requires explicit package
name at
	> (eval 14)
	>         > line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
	>         >
	>         > ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot
#6 `data
	> %to10KB':
	>         > sub {
	>         >   return %to10KB;
	>         > }
	>         >
	>         > Output: Global symbol "%to1MB" requires explicit package
name at
	> (eval 17)
	>         > line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
	>         >
	>         > ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot
#6 `data
	> %over1MB':
	>         > sub {
	>         >   return %over1MB;
	>         > }
	>         >
	>         > Output: Global symbol "%over1MB" requires explicit
package name at
	> (eval 18)
	>         > line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
	>         >
	>         > ./bin/orca: Orca::GIFFile::new passed empty @rrds_ref
reference.
	>         >         Orca::GIFFile::new('Orca::GIFFile',
'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
	>         > 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)', 'orcallator',
'nms', '',
	>         > 'orcallator_%to1KB,
	>         > rcallator_%to10KB,orcallator_%to100KB,orcalla...', ...)
called at
	> ./bin/orca
	>         > line 1493
	>         >
	>         >
	>
Orca::SourceDataFile::add_plots('Orca::SourceDataFile=HASH(0x202b34)',
	>         > 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)', 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)',
'orcallat
	>         > r', 'nms', 'HASH(0x20db58)', 'HASH(0x211d10)') called at
	> ./bin/orca line
	>         > 2598
	>         >         main::find_files('lib/orcallator.cfg',
'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
	>         > 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)', 'HASH(0x1ccfec)',
	> 'HASH(0x20db7c)',
	>         > 'HASH
	>         > 0x20db58)', 'HASH(0x211d10)') called at ./bin/orca line
1836
	>         >         main::watch_data_sources('lib/orcallator.cfg',
	> 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
	>         > 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)') called at
./bin/orca line
	> 1739
	>         >         main::main('lib/orcallator.cfg') called at
./bin/orca line
	> 1718
	>         > [root][nms] /opt/orca>
	>         >
	>         > I feel like I am missing the big picture.  What does is
the
	> orcalator.se
	>         > file used for?  Am I supposed to run these things by
hand?  Is
	> this the same
	>         > for rrd?
	> 
	>         Actually, you're pretty close here.  Orcallator.se is the
data
	> gathering tool
	>         that is run on each Sun system.  In this case, it does not
look like
	> you are
	>         watching your web server statistics, so Orca is failing.
This is a
	> bug that
	>         will be fixed in the next release of Orca.  For now, there
are two
	> solutions
	>         to the bug.  One is to enable web server watching in
orcallator.se
	> on all your
	>         hosts.  The second is to remove from orcallator.cfg the
plot { ... }
	> lines
	>         that mention web serving until Orca does not complain.
	> 
	>         The only think you'll probably want to change in
orcallator.cfg are
	> the
	>         html_* settings to be specific for your site.
	> 
	>         Cheers,
	>         Blair
	> 
	>         >
	>         >     Douglas R. Mauro
	>         > -------------------------
	>         > Corning Consumer Products
	>         >   Technical Team Leader
	>         >   Network Administrator
	>         >
	>         > Phone:  607.377.8538
	>         > Fax:    607.377.8539
	>         > E-Mail: maurodr at ccpci.com
<mailto:maurodr at ccpci.com><<File:
	> bzajac.vcf>><<File: bzajac.vcf>>



From MauroDR at ccpci.com  Tue Aug  3 13:52:13 1999
From: MauroDR at ccpci.com (Mauro, Douglas R)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:52:13 -0400 
Subject: [Orca-users] RE: Same Problems...
Message-ID: <4B87D5F37B57D111B6EC0060089A9118E8EA54@newman.ccpci.com>


Yes.  I am even seeing the "Using ... access log " line when I start:

[root][nms] /opt/orca/bin> ./res
Killing pids 20973.
Writing data into /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/
Using www access log file /var/opt/OV/log/httpd_access_log
Starting logging
[root][nms] /opt/orca/bin>

BTW:  I just did a restart here but did a start before.

    Douglas R. Mauro
-------------------------
Corning Consumer Products
  Technical Team Leader
  Network Administrator

Phone:  607.377.8538
Fax:    607.377.8539
E-Mail: maurodr at ccpci.com <mailto:maurodr at ccpci.com> 


	----------
	From:  Blair Zajac [SMTP:bzajac at geostaff.com]
	Sent:  Tuesday, August 03, 1999 4:57 PM
	To:  Mauro, Douglas R
	Cc:  Orca Help Mailing List
	Subject:  Re: Same Problems...

	Look at the start_orcallator script.  This should have WATCH_HTTPD
	declared to "-DWATCH_HTTPD", which is then passed as an argument
	to se, which then runs orcallator.se.

	Are you using start_orcallator?

	Blair



	"Mauro, Douglas R" wrote:
	> 
	> Hmmm... I did a:
	> 3764  make dist
	> 3765  make distclean
	> 3766  ./configure --prefix=/opt/orca
--with-html-dir=/opt/OV/httpd/htdocs
	> --with-ncsa-log=/var/opt/OV/log/httpd_access_log
	> 3767  make
	> 3768  make install
	> 
	> no real issues (couple of warnings about pod2html)
	> 
	> Waited 15 minutes (even generated some WWW traffic) and I am still
getting
	> the same error(s):
	> 
	> I noticed that in orcallator.se that it does not have WATCH_HTTP?
Should
	> it?
	> 
	> ! Clipped Here
	> // Define the different parts of the system you want to examine.
	> #ifdef WATCH_OS
	> #define WATCH_CPU
	> #define WATCH_MUTEX
	> #define WATCH_NET
	> #define WATCH_TCP
	> #define WATCH_NFS
	> #define WATCH_DISK
	> #define WATCH_DNLC
	> #define WATCH_INODE
	> #define WATCH_RAM
	> #define WATCH_PAGES
	> #endif
	> 
	> #include <stdio.se>
	> ! Clipped Here
	> 
	> What writes this "orca.state" file??
	> 
	> [root][nms] /opt/orca> ./bin/orca -v lib/orcallator.cfg
	> Orca version 0.23 using RRDs version 1.000031.
	> Creating orca.gif.
	> Creating rrdtool.gif.
	> ./bin/orca: warning: cannot open state file
	> `/opt/orca/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state' for reading: No
such file or
	> directory
	> Finding files and setting up data structures at Tue Aug  3
16:52:06 1999.
	>   /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03
	> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data #httpds'
in plot
	> #3 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to1KB'
in plot #6
	> in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to10KB'
in plot
	> #6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data
%to100KB' in plot
	> #6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to1MB'
in plot #6
	> in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data
%over1MB' in plot
	> #6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	> ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot #6 `data
%to1KB':
	> sub {
	>   return %to1KB;
	> }
	> 
	> Output: Global symbol "%to1KB" requ
	> 
	> ! CLIPPED
	> ! CLIPPED!!!!
	> 
	>     Douglas R. Mauro
	> -------------------------
	> Corning Consumer Products
	>   Technical Team Leader
	>   Network Administrator
	> 
	> Phone:  607.377.8538
	> Fax:    607.377.8539
	> E-Mail: maurodr at ccpci.com <mailto:maurodr at ccpci.com>
	> 
	>         ----------
	>         From:  Blair Zajac [SMTP:bzajac at geostaff.com]
	>         Sent:  Tuesday, August 03, 1999 4:32 PM
	>         To:  Mauro, Douglas R
	>         Cc:  Orca Help Mailing List
	>         Subject:  Re: Thoughts?
	> 
	>         Yes, you use the with-TYPE-log configure option.  This
will set up
	>         start_orcallator correctly with all the proper
environmental and
	>         command line options to run lib/orcallator.se.  While you
can run
	>         `se lib/orcallator.se' by hand, it will not watch
everything you
	>         want and will not save the data files onto disk, rather
output the
	>         data to your tty.  So you should run start_orcallator
instead.
	> 
	>         Blair
	> 
	>         "Mauro, Douglas R" wrote:
	>         >
	>         > To enable web server watching do I recompile with:
	>         > ./configure --prefix=/opt/orca
	> --with-html-dir=/opt/OV/httpd/htdocs
	>         > --with-TYPE-log=/var/opt/OV/log/httpd_access_log
	>         > ??
	>         > Or do I have to edit the .se file manually?
	>         >
	>         > BTW:  Should I be running by hand: $ se
lib/orcallator.se &
	>         >
	>         > Thanks for the help, I'm looking forward to getting this
up and
	> running!
	>         >
	>         >     Douglas R. Mauro
	>         > -------------------------
	>         > Corning Consumer Products
	>         >   Technical Team Leader
	>         >   Network Administrator
	>         >
	>         > Phone:  607.377.8538
	>         > Fax:    607.377.8539
	>         > E-Mail: maurodr at ccpci.com <mailto:maurodr at ccpci.com>
	>         >
	>         >         ----------
	>         >         From:  Blair Zajac [SMTP:bzajac at geostaff.com]
	>         >         Sent:  Tuesday, August 03, 1999 4:20 PM
	>         >         To:  Mauro, Douglas R
	>         >         Cc:  Orca Help Mailing List
	>         >         Subject:  Re: Thoughts?
	>         >
	>         >         "Mauro, Douglas R" wrote:
	>         >         >
	>         >         > BTW:  I tried to subscribe to orca-help online
but
	> couldn't.  The
	>         > link just
	>         >         > hung.
	>         >
	>         >         Which link was this?  I'd try again in a while.
	>         >
	>         >         >
	>         >         > I am trying to install Orca on Solaris 2.5.1.
Currently
	> I have
	>         > installed:
	>         >         >
	>         >         > Name            Version         Install
Location
	>         >         > --------                ----------
	>         >         > ---------------------------------
	>         >         > Orca            0.23            /opt/orca
	>         >         > SE              3.0             /opt/RICHPse
	>         >         > Rrd             1.0.3
/usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.3
	>         >         >
	>         >         > I ran the orca coinfigure with the following:
	>         >         > ./configure --prefix=/opt/orca
	>         > --with-html-dir=/opt/OV/httpd/htdocs
	>         >         >
	>         >         > No problems.
	>         >         >
	>         >         > I am guessing that the html-dir is a directory
that is
	> accessible
	>         > through
	>         >         > the WWW?
	>         >
	>         >         Yes, this is correct.
	>         >
	>         >         >
	>         >         > Reading through INSTALL...
	>         >         >
	>         >         > [root][nms] /opt/orca> ./bin/start_orcallator
	>         >         > Writing data into
/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/
	>         >         > Starting logging
	>         >         > [root][nms] /opt/orca>
	>         >         >
	>         >         > It was unclear at first glance what I should
edit in the
	> .cfg file
	>         > so I left
	>         >         > it alone.
	>         >         >
	>         >         > When I tried starting and/or running orca
after I saw
	> some data
	>         > files
	>         >         > written I got:
	>         >         >
	>         >         > [root][nms] /opt/orca> ./bin/orca -v
lib/orcallator.cfg
	>         >         > Orca version 0.23 using RRDs version 1.000031.
	>         >         > Creating orca.gif.
	>         >         > Creating rrdtool.gif.
	>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: cannot open state file
	>         >         > `/opt/orca/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'
for
	> reading: No
	>         > such file or
	>         >         > directory
	>         >         > Finding files and setting up data structures
at Tue Aug
	> 3
	>         > 16:07:53 1999.
	>         >         >
/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03
	>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions
performed for
	> `data #httpds'
	>         > in plot
	>         >         > #3 in
	> `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions
performed for
	> `data %to1KB'
	>         > in plot #6
	>         >         > in
	> `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions
performed for
	> `data %to10KB'
	>         > in plot
	>         >         > #6 in
	> `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions
performed for
	> `data
	>         > %to100KB' in plot
	>         >         > #6 in
	> `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions
performed for
	> `data %to1MB'
	>         > in plot #6
	>         >         > in
	> `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions
performed for
	> `data
	>         > %over1MB' in plot
	>         >         > #6 in
	> `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
	>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of
commands for plot
	> #6 `data
	>         > %to1KB':
	>         >         > sub {
	>         >         >   return %to1KB;
	>         >         > }
	>         >         >
	>         >         > Output: Global symbol "%to1KB" requires
explicit package
	> name at
	>         > (eval 14)
	>         >         > line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
	>         >         >
	>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of
commands for plot
	> #6 `data
	>         > %to10KB':
	>         >         > sub {
	>         >         >   return %to10KB;
	>         >         > }
	>         >         >
	>         >         > Output: Global symbol "%to1MB" requires
explicit package
	> name at
	>         > (eval 17)
	>         >         > line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
	>         >         >
	>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of
commands for plot
	> #6 `data
	>         > %over1MB':
	>         >         > sub {
	>         >         >   return %over1MB;
	>         >         > }
	>         >         >
	>         >         > Output: Global symbol "%over1MB" requires
explicit
	> package name at
	>         > (eval 18)
	>         >         > line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
	>         >         >
	>         >         > ./bin/orca: Orca::GIFFile::new passed empty
@rrds_ref
	> reference.
	>         >         >         Orca::GIFFile::new('Orca::GIFFile',
	> 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
	>         >         > 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)',
'orcallator',
	> 'nms', '',
	>         >         > 'orcallator_%to1KB,
	>         >         >
rcallator_%to10KB,orcallator_%to100KB,orcalla...', ...)
	> called at
	>         > ./bin/orca
	>         >         > line 1493
	>         >         >
	>         >         >
	>         >
	>
Orca::SourceDataFile::add_plots('Orca::SourceDataFile=HASH(0x202b34)',
	>         >         > 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)', 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)',
'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)',
	> 'orcallat
	>         >         > r', 'nms', 'HASH(0x20db58)', 'HASH(0x211d10)')
called at
	>         > ./bin/orca line
	>         >         > 2598
	>         >         >         main::find_files('lib/orcallator.cfg',
	> 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
	>         >         > 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)',
'HASH(0x1ccfec)',
	>         > 'HASH(0x20db7c)',
	>         >         > 'HASH
	>         >         > 0x20db58)', 'HASH(0x211d10)') called at
./bin/orca line
	> 1836
	>         >         >
main::watch_data_sources('lib/orcallator.cfg',
	>         > 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
	>         >         > 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)') called at
	> ./bin/orca line
	>         > 1739
	>         >         >         main::main('lib/orcallator.cfg')
called at
	> ./bin/orca line
	>         > 1718
	>         >         > [root][nms] /opt/orca>
	>         >         >
	>         >         > I feel like I am missing the big picture.
What does is
	> the
	>         > orcalator.se
	>         >         > file used for?  Am I supposed to run these
things by
	> hand?  Is
	>         > this the same
	>         >         > for rrd?
	>         >
	>         >         Actually, you're pretty close here.
Orcallator.se is the
	> data
	>         > gathering tool
	>         >         that is run on each Sun system.  In this case,
it does not
	> look like
	>         > you are
	>         >         watching your web server statistics, so Orca is
failing.
	> This is a
	>         > bug that
	>         >         will be fixed in the next release of Orca.  For
now, there
	> are two
	>         > solutions
	>         >         to the bug.  One is to enable web server
watching in
	> orcallator.se
	>         > on all your
	>         >         hosts.  The second is to remove from
orcallator.cfg the
	> plot { ... }
	>         > lines
	>         >         that mention web serving until Orca does not
complain.
	>         >
	>         >         The only think you'll probably want to change in
	> orcallator.cfg are
	>         > the
	>         >         html_* settings to be specific for your site.
	>         >
	>         >         Cheers,
	>         >         Blair
	>         >
	>         >         >
	>         >         >     Douglas R. Mauro
	>         >         > -------------------------
	>         >         > Corning Consumer Products
	>         >         >   Technical Team Leader
	>         >         >   Network Administrator
	>         >         >
	>         >         > Phone:  607.377.8538
	>         >         > Fax:    607.377.8539
	>         >         > E-Mail: maurodr at ccpci.com
	> <mailto:maurodr at ccpci.com><<File:
	>         > bzajac.vcf>><<File: bzajac.vcf>><<File: bzajac.vcf>>



From bzajac at geostaff.com  Tue Aug  3 13:56:41 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 13:56:41 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: Same Problems...
References: <4B87D5F37B57D111B6EC0060089A9118E8EA53@newman.ccpci.com>
Message-ID: <37A75789.EF5EEFCA@geostaff.com>

Look at the start_orcallator script.  This should have WATCH_HTTPD
declared to "-DWATCH_HTTPD", which is then passed as an argument
to se, which then runs orcallator.se.

Are you using start_orcallator?

Blair



"Mauro, Douglas R" wrote:
> 
> Hmmm... I did a:
> 3764  make dist
> 3765  make distclean
> 3766  ./configure --prefix=/opt/orca --with-html-dir=/opt/OV/httpd/htdocs
> --with-ncsa-log=/var/opt/OV/log/httpd_access_log
> 3767  make
> 3768  make install
> 
> no real issues (couple of warnings about pod2html)
> 
> Waited 15 minutes (even generated some WWW traffic) and I am still getting
> the same error(s):
> 
> I noticed that in orcallator.se that it does not have WATCH_HTTP?  Should
> it?
> 
> ! Clipped Here
> // Define the different parts of the system you want to examine.
> #ifdef WATCH_OS
> #define WATCH_CPU
> #define WATCH_MUTEX
> #define WATCH_NET
> #define WATCH_TCP
> #define WATCH_NFS
> #define WATCH_DISK
> #define WATCH_DNLC
> #define WATCH_INODE
> #define WATCH_RAM
> #define WATCH_PAGES
> #endif
> 
> #include <stdio.se>
> ! Clipped Here
> 
> What writes this "orca.state" file??
> 
> [root][nms] /opt/orca> ./bin/orca -v lib/orcallator.cfg
> Orca version 0.23 using RRDs version 1.000031.
> Creating orca.gif.
> Creating rrdtool.gif.
> ./bin/orca: warning: cannot open state file
> `/opt/orca/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state' for reading: No such file or
> directory
> Finding files and setting up data structures at Tue Aug  3 16:52:06 1999.
>   /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03
> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data #httpds' in plot
> #3 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to1KB' in plot #6
> in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to10KB' in plot
> #6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to100KB' in plot
> #6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %to1MB' in plot #6
> in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
> ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for `data %over1MB' in plot
> #6 in `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
> ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot #6 `data %to1KB':
> sub {
>   return %to1KB;
> }
> 
> Output: Global symbol "%to1KB" requ
> 
> ! CLIPPED
> ! CLIPPED!!!!
> 
>     Douglas R. Mauro
> -------------------------
> Corning Consumer Products
>   Technical Team Leader
>   Network Administrator
> 
> Phone:  607.377.8538
> Fax:    607.377.8539
> E-Mail: maurodr at ccpci.com <mailto:maurodr at ccpci.com>
> 
>         ----------
>         From:  Blair Zajac [SMTP:bzajac at geostaff.com]
>         Sent:  Tuesday, August 03, 1999 4:32 PM
>         To:  Mauro, Douglas R
>         Cc:  Orca Help Mailing List
>         Subject:  Re: Thoughts?
> 
>         Yes, you use the with-TYPE-log configure option.  This will set up
>         start_orcallator correctly with all the proper environmental and
>         command line options to run lib/orcallator.se.  While you can run
>         `se lib/orcallator.se' by hand, it will not watch everything you
>         want and will not save the data files onto disk, rather output the
>         data to your tty.  So you should run start_orcallator instead.
> 
>         Blair
> 
>         "Mauro, Douglas R" wrote:
>         >
>         > To enable web server watching do I recompile with:
>         > ./configure --prefix=/opt/orca
> --with-html-dir=/opt/OV/httpd/htdocs
>         > --with-TYPE-log=/var/opt/OV/log/httpd_access_log
>         > ??
>         > Or do I have to edit the .se file manually?
>         >
>         > BTW:  Should I be running by hand: $ se lib/orcallator.se &
>         >
>         > Thanks for the help, I'm looking forward to getting this up and
> running!
>         >
>         >     Douglas R. Mauro
>         > -------------------------
>         > Corning Consumer Products
>         >   Technical Team Leader
>         >   Network Administrator
>         >
>         > Phone:  607.377.8538
>         > Fax:    607.377.8539
>         > E-Mail: maurodr at ccpci.com <mailto:maurodr at ccpci.com>
>         >
>         >         ----------
>         >         From:  Blair Zajac [SMTP:bzajac at geostaff.com]
>         >         Sent:  Tuesday, August 03, 1999 4:20 PM
>         >         To:  Mauro, Douglas R
>         >         Cc:  Orca Help Mailing List
>         >         Subject:  Re: Thoughts?
>         >
>         >         "Mauro, Douglas R" wrote:
>         >         >
>         >         > BTW:  I tried to subscribe to orca-help online but
> couldn't.  The
>         > link just
>         >         > hung.
>         >
>         >         Which link was this?  I'd try again in a while.
>         >
>         >         >
>         >         > I am trying to install Orca on Solaris 2.5.1.  Currently
> I have
>         > installed:
>         >         >
>         >         > Name            Version         Install Location
>         >         > --------                ----------
>         >         > ---------------------------------
>         >         > Orca            0.23            /opt/orca
>         >         > SE              3.0             /opt/RICHPse
>         >         > Rrd             1.0.3           /usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.3
>         >         >
>         >         > I ran the orca coinfigure with the following:
>         >         > ./configure --prefix=/opt/orca
>         > --with-html-dir=/opt/OV/httpd/htdocs
>         >         >
>         >         > No problems.
>         >         >
>         >         > I am guessing that the html-dir is a directory that is
> accessible
>         > through
>         >         > the WWW?
>         >
>         >         Yes, this is correct.
>         >
>         >         >
>         >         > Reading through INSTALL...
>         >         >
>         >         > [root][nms] /opt/orca> ./bin/start_orcallator
>         >         > Writing data into /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/
>         >         > Starting logging
>         >         > [root][nms] /opt/orca>
>         >         >
>         >         > It was unclear at first glance what I should edit in the
> .cfg file
>         > so I left
>         >         > it alone.
>         >         >
>         >         > When I tried starting and/or running orca after I saw
> some data
>         > files
>         >         > written I got:
>         >         >
>         >         > [root][nms] /opt/orca> ./bin/orca -v lib/orcallator.cfg
>         >         > Orca version 0.23 using RRDs version 1.000031.
>         >         > Creating orca.gif.
>         >         > Creating rrdtool.gif.
>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: cannot open state file
>         >         > `/opt/orca/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state' for
> reading: No
>         > such file or
>         >         > directory
>         >         > Finding files and setting up data structures at Tue Aug
> 3
>         > 16:07:53 1999.
>         >         >   /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03
>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for
> `data #httpds'
>         > in plot
>         >         > #3 in
> `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for
> `data %to1KB'
>         > in plot #6
>         >         > in
> `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for
> `data %to10KB'
>         > in plot
>         >         > #6 in
> `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for
> `data
>         > %to100KB' in plot
>         >         > #6 in
> `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for
> `data %to1MB'
>         > in plot #6
>         >         > in
> `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: no substitutions performed for
> `data
>         > %over1MB' in plot
>         >         > #6 in
> `/opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/percol-1999-08-03'.
>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot
> #6 `data
>         > %to1KB':
>         >         > sub {
>         >         >   return %to1KB;
>         >         > }
>         >         >
>         >         > Output: Global symbol "%to1KB" requires explicit package
> name at
>         > (eval 14)
>         >         > line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
>         >         >
>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot
> #6 `data
>         > %to10KB':
>         >         > sub {
>         >         >   return %to10KB;
>         >         > }
>         >         >
>         >         > Output: Global symbol "%to1MB" requires explicit package
> name at
>         > (eval 17)
>         >         > line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
>         >         >
>         >         > ./bin/orca: warning: bad evaluation of commands for plot
> #6 `data
>         > %over1MB':
>         >         > sub {
>         >         >   return %over1MB;
>         >         > }
>         >         >
>         >         > Output: Global symbol "%over1MB" requires explicit
> package name at
>         > (eval 18)
>         >         > line 2, <FD> chunk 1.
>         >         >
>         >         > ./bin/orca: Orca::GIFFile::new passed empty @rrds_ref
> reference.
>         >         >         Orca::GIFFile::new('Orca::GIFFile',
> 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
>         >         > 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)', 'orcallator',
> 'nms', '',
>         >         > 'orcallator_%to1KB,
>         >         > rcallator_%to10KB,orcallator_%to100KB,orcalla...', ...)
> called at
>         > ./bin/orca
>         >         > line 1493
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >
> Orca::SourceDataFile::add_plots('Orca::SourceDataFile=HASH(0x202b34)',
>         >         > 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)', 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)',
> 'orcallat
>         >         > r', 'nms', 'HASH(0x20db58)', 'HASH(0x211d10)') called at
>         > ./bin/orca line
>         >         > 2598
>         >         >         main::find_files('lib/orcallator.cfg',
> 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
>         >         > 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)', 'HASH(0x1ccfec)',
>         > 'HASH(0x20db7c)',
>         >         > 'HASH
>         >         > 0x20db58)', 'HASH(0x211d10)') called at ./bin/orca line
> 1836
>         >         >         main::watch_data_sources('lib/orcallator.cfg',
>         > 'HASH(0x1fc0b8)',
>         >         > 'HASH(0x1fc0d0)', 'ARRAY(0x1fc0e8)') called at
> ./bin/orca line
>         > 1739
>         >         >         main::main('lib/orcallator.cfg') called at
> ./bin/orca line
>         > 1718
>         >         > [root][nms] /opt/orca>
>         >         >
>         >         > I feel like I am missing the big picture.  What does is
> the
>         > orcalator.se
>         >         > file used for?  Am I supposed to run these things by
> hand?  Is
>         > this the same
>         >         > for rrd?
>         >
>         >         Actually, you're pretty close here.  Orcallator.se is the
> data
>         > gathering tool
>         >         that is run on each Sun system.  In this case, it does not
> look like
>         > you are
>         >         watching your web server statistics, so Orca is failing.
> This is a
>         > bug that
>         >         will be fixed in the next release of Orca.  For now, there
> are two
>         > solutions
>         >         to the bug.  One is to enable web server watching in
> orcallator.se
>         > on all your
>         >         hosts.  The second is to remove from orcallator.cfg the
> plot { ... }
>         > lines
>         >         that mention web serving until Orca does not complain.
>         >
>         >         The only think you'll probably want to change in
> orcallator.cfg are
>         > the
>         >         html_* settings to be specific for your site.
>         >
>         >         Cheers,
>         >         Blair
>         >
>         >         >
>         >         >     Douglas R. Mauro
>         >         > -------------------------
>         >         > Corning Consumer Products
>         >         >   Technical Team Leader
>         >         >   Network Administrator
>         >         >
>         >         > Phone:  607.377.8538
>         >         > Fax:    607.377.8539
>         >         > E-Mail: maurodr at ccpci.com
> <mailto:maurodr at ccpci.com><<File:
>         > bzajac.vcf>><<File: bzajac.vcf>>


From bzajac at geostaff.com  Tue Aug  3 14:04:05 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 14:04:05 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: Same Problems...
References: <4B87D5F37B57D111B6EC0060089A9118E8EA54@newman.ccpci.com>
Message-ID: <37A75945.81F96D89@geostaff.com>

To get this working now I would do the following steps:

./bin/stop_orcallator
rm /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/*
./bin/start_orcallator

Orca is using the header from the data file as first written and
is not looking at the data father into the file.  This bug will
also be fixed in the next release.

Blair


"Mauro, Douglas R" wrote:
> 
> Yes.  I am even seeing the "Using ... access log " line when I start:
> 
> [root][nms] /opt/orca/bin> ./res
> Killing pids 20973.
> Writing data into /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/nms/
> Using www access log file /var/opt/OV/log/httpd_access_log
> Starting logging
> [root][nms] /opt/orca/bin>
> 
> BTW:  I just did a restart here but did a start before.
> 
>     Douglas R. Mauro


From bzajac at geostaff.com  Thu Aug  5 10:08:11 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 10:08:11 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: `orca.state' & `find_files' errors
References: <3.0.32.19990805120551.00a682f8@mail.idola.net.id>
Message-ID: <37A9C4FB.9375F498@geostaff.com>

Have you run start_orcallator on the hosts you wish to monitor?

Blair


Budi Wiyono wrote:
> 
> From: Budi Wiyono <budiw at idola.net.id>
> 
> Mr. Blair,
> 
> I am getting some errors.
> Bellow is the output from Orca's Command: ./orca -v ../lib/orcallator.cfg
> Can you figure out what should i do to fix these problem...
> 
> ./orca -v ../lib/orcallator.cfg
> ---OUTPUT---
> Orca version 0.23 using RRDs version 1.000031.
> Creating orca.gif.
> Creating rrdtool.gif.
> ./orca: warning: cannot open state file
> `/data1/usr/users/sys/admin/budiw/orca-0.23/packages/rrdtool-1.0.3/orcallato
> r/orca.state' for reading: No such file or directory
> Finding files and setting up data structures at Thu Aug  5 09:46:53 1999.
> ./orca: warning: no files found for `find_files' for `files orcallator' in
> `../lib/orcallator.cfg'.
> ./orca: no data source files found.
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From budiw at idola.net.id  Thu Aug  5 12:05:51 1999
From: budiw at idola.net.id (Budi Wiyono)
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 12:05:51 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] `orca.state' & `find_files' errors
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990805120551.00a682f8@mail.idola.net.id>

From: Budi Wiyono <budiw at idola.net.id>

Mr. Blair,	

I am getting some errors. 
Bellow is the output from Orca's Command: ./orca -v ../lib/orcallator.cfg
Can you figure out what should i do to fix these problem...

./orca -v ../lib/orcallator.cfg
---OUTPUT---
Orca version 0.23 using RRDs version 1.000031.
Creating orca.gif.
Creating rrdtool.gif.
./orca: warning: cannot open state file
`/data1/usr/users/sys/admin/budiw/orca-0.23/packages/rrdtool-1.0.3/orcallato
r/orca.state' for reading: No such file or directory
Finding files and setting up data structures at Thu Aug  5 09:46:53 1999.
./orca: warning: no files found for `find_files' for `files orcallator' in
`../lib/orcallator.cfg'.
./orca: no data source files found.


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From bzajac at geostaff.com  Thu Aug  5 20:21:11 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 20:21:11 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: Problem with LARGE data values displayed in Orca
 0.23
References: <000001bedfb8$b6d8f180$1a4a10ac@sean.cen.com>
Message-ID: <37AA5496.4EFF3EBF@geostaff.com>

Sean,

Can you check the text files orcallator.se is generating to see if the
problem is from orcallator.se or somewhere after orcallator?  There
is a program that comes with orca named orcallator_column that
will display the values for a particular column if you give it the
-c option followed by the column name.

You'll probably want to run

orcallator_column -c pagestotl -c pp_kernel -c free_pages percol-*

and

orcallator_column -c nfs_call/s percol-*

If these values look fine but the plots don't, send me the percol-*
files and I'll try to see what is going on when them.

Blair


Sean O'Neill wrote:

> From: "Sean O'Neill" <sean.oneill at appnet.com>
>
> I'm having a problem with Orca 0.23 in how it displays data for the
> following system:
>
> Ultra 450
> Solaris 2.6
> 2GB of memory
> Orca 0.23 (running orcallator only - RRD running on another system - RRD is
> the
> version distributed with Orca v0.23)
>
> In the Daily Page Usage chart, I get the following numbers for Current
> usage:
>
> Kernel: 4294941604.000000
> Free List: 202801.000000
> Other: 211219.000000
> System Total: 255067.000000
>
> Because the Kernel is showing up so large (I'm not paging thrashing BTW - my
> kernel isn't this big), the graph is completely green.  I have another
> system running Solaris 7 (much smaller system) in which this graph appears
> to work fine.  Also, the NFS Call Rate graph shows the exact same behavior:
>
> Average: 10137670.554552
> Max: 1145324612.267000
>
> The data above was shown after the system had been up only 2 hours.  BTW,
> I'd like to see any system that could handle this kind of load !!!! :)  This
> system is using NFS to write the orcallator data to the RRD server.
>
> Any ideas on why Kernel and the NFS call rate are showing up so large?  Is
> this a SE Tool problem?  Something in the Orca configuration I can tweak?
>
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From bzajac at geostaff.com  Thu Aug  5 21:02:28 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 21:02:28 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: `orca.state' & `find_files' errors
References: <3.0.32.19990806101837.00abff60@mail.idola.net.id>
Message-ID: <37AA5E3C.1D7B1A99@geostaff.com>

It looks like you have not installed the SE toolkit.  Follow
the instructions in step 7 in the INSTALL file to install
SE.  The bottom line is to go to

http://www.sun.com/sun-on-net/performance/se3/

and get the software and rerun configure and install the
Orca software again.

Blair


Budi Wiyono wrote:

> From: Budi Wiyono <budiw at idola.net.id>
>
> Yes, I have.
> But, there is a warning or something like bellow:
>
> ./start_orcallator
> Writing data into /usr/users/budiw/orca-0.23/var/orca/orcallator/merak/
> Starting logging
> ./start_orcallator: -DWATCH_OS: not found
>
> How to start correctly ?
>
> TIA,
> Budi W
>
> At 10:08 AM 8/5/99 -0700, Blair Zajac wrote:
> >Have you run start_orcallator on the hosts you wish to monitor?
> >
> >Blair
> >
> >
> >Budi Wiyono wrote:
> >>
> >> From: Budi Wiyono <budiw at idola.net.id>
> >>
> >> Mr. Blair,
> >>
> >> I am getting some errors.
> >> Bellow is the output from Orca's Command: ./orca -v ../lib/orcallator.cfg
> >> Can you figure out what should i do to fix these problem...
> >>
> >> ./orca -v ../lib/orcallator.cfg
> >> ---OUTPUT---
> >> Orca version 0.23 using RRDs version 1.000031.
> >> Creating orca.gif.
> >> Creating rrdtool.gif.
> >> ./orca: warning: cannot open state file
> >>
> `/data1/usr/users/sys/admin/budiw/orca-0.23/packages/rrdtool-1.0.3/orcallato
> >> r/orca.state' for reading: No such file or directory
> >> Finding files and setting up data structures at Thu Aug  5 09:46:53 1999.
> >> ./orca: warning: no files found for `find_files' for `files orcallator' in
> >> `../lib/orcallator.cfg'.
> >> ./orca: no data source files found.
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From sean.oneill at appnet.com  Fri Aug  6 05:20:55 1999
From: sean.oneill at appnet.com (Sean O'Neill)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 08:20:55 -0400
Subject: [Orca-users] RE: Problem with LARGE data values displayed in Orca
 0.23
In-Reply-To: <37AA5496.4EFF3EBF@geostaff.com>
Message-ID: <000401bee006$226320e0$1a4a10ac@sean.cen.com>

From: "Sean O'Neill" <sean.oneill at appnet.com>

Below are partial listings (lots of data).

- The pp_kernel column changed but the size of the number stayed constant
throughout the listing.

# /usr/local/orca/bin/orcallator_column -c pagestotl -c pp_kernel -c
free_pages orcallator-*
              Machine  locltime pagestotl pp_kernel free_pages
orcallator-1999-08-06  07:35:00 255067.00 4294945675.00   4171.00
orcallator-1999-08-06  07:40:00 255067.00 4294945675.00   4188.00
orcallator-1999-08-06  07:45:00 255067.00 4294945655.00   4060.00
orcallator-1999-08-06  07:50:00 255067.00 4294945659.00   4034.00
orcallator-1999-08-06  07:55:00 255067.00 4294945674.00   4070.00
orcallator-1999-08-06  08:00:00 255067.00 4294945671.00   4073.00
orcallator-1999-08-06  08:05:00 255067.00 4294945682.00   4076.00
orcallator-1999-08-06  08:10:00 255067.00 4294945686.00   4099.00

- The nfs_call/s column was zero except for the two data listings below.
Like I said in my previous post, this system is an NFS client not a server
(whether that is important or not I'm not sure).

# /usr/local/orca/bin/orcallator_column -c nfs_call/s orcallator-*
              Machine  locltime nfs_call/s
orcallator-1999-08-05  08:45:00      0.00
orcallator-1999-08-05  08:50:00      0.00
orcallator-1999-08-05  08:55:01 727718711.28
orcallator-1999-08-05  09:00:00      0.00
orcallator-1999-08-05  09:05:00      0.00
orcallator-1999-08-05  09:10:00 1145324612.27
orcallator-1999-08-05  09:15:00      0.00
orcallator-1999-08-05  09:20:00      0.00

Since these files were generated by orcallator.se this looks like its an SE
Toolkit or orcallator.se file problem ??

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blair Zajac [mailto:bzajac at geostaff.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 11:21 PM
> To: orca-help at onelist.com
> Cc: Sean O'Neill
> Subject: Re: [orca-help] Problem with LARGE data values displayed in
> Orca 0.23
>
>
> Sean,
>
> Can you check the text files orcallator.se is generating to see if the
> problem is from orcallator.se or somewhere after orcallator?  There
> is a program that comes with orca named orcallator_column that
> will display the values for a particular column if you give it the
> -c option followed by the column name.
>
> You'll probably want to run
>
> orcallator_column -c pagestotl -c pp_kernel -c free_pages percol-*
>
> and
>
> orcallator_column -c nfs_call/s percol-*
>
> If these values look fine but the plots don't, send me the percol-*
> files and I'll try to see what is going on when them.
>
> Blair
>
>
> Sean O'Neill wrote:
>
> > From: "Sean O'Neill" <sean.oneill at appnet.com>
> >
> > I'm having a problem with Orca 0.23 in how it displays data for the
> > following system:
> >
> > Ultra 450
> > Solaris 2.6
> > 2GB of memory
> > Orca 0.23 (running orcallator only - RRD running on another
> system - RRD is
> > the
> > version distributed with Orca v0.23)
> >
> > In the Daily Page Usage chart, I get the following numbers
> for Current
> > usage:
> >
> > Kernel: 4294941604.000000
> > Free List: 202801.000000
> > Other: 211219.000000
> > System Total: 255067.000000
> >
> > Because the Kernel is showing up so large (I'm not paging
> thrashing BTW - my
> > kernel isn't this big), the graph is completely green.  I
> have another
> > system running Solaris 7 (much smaller system) in which
> this graph appears
> > to work fine.  Also, the NFS Call Rate graph shows the
> exact same behavior:
> >
> > Average: 10137670.554552
> > Max: 1145324612.267000
> >
> > The data above was shown after the system had been up only
> 2 hours.  BTW,
> > I'd like to see any system that could handle this kind of
> load !!!! :)  This
> > system is using NFS to write the orcallator data to the RRD server.
> >
> > Any ideas on why Kernel and the NFS call rate are showing
> up so large?  Is
> > this a SE Tool problem?  Something in the Orca
> configuration I can tweak?
> >
> > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> > Sean O'Neill
> > AppNet, Inc.
> > 301-953-3330
> > soneill at cen.com
> > soneill at centurycomputing.com
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> >
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From bzajac at geostaff.com  Fri Aug  6 09:27:43 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 09:27:43 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: `orca.state' & `find_files' errors
References: <3.0.32.19990806122313.00b75db4@mail.idola.net.id>
Message-ID: <37AB0CFF.406FABBA@geostaff.com>

Unfortunately, the SE toolkit only runs on Sun systems. I am
on working on a system where you can use a modified form of
top to gather the data and have Orca plot it, but this is still
several months away.

Blair


Budi Wiyono wrote:
> 
> From: Budi Wiyono <budiw at idola.net.id>
> 
> Dear Mr Blair,
> 
> I use Aplha/Digital Unix.
> Should i use SE toolkit too ?
> 
> TIA,
> Budi W
> 
> At 09:02 PM 8/5/99 -0700, Blair Zajac wrote:
> >It looks like you have not installed the SE toolkit.  Follow
> >the instructions in step 7 in the INSTALL file to install
> >SE.  The bottom line is to go to
> >
> >http://www.sun.com/sun-on-net/performance/se3/
> >
> >and get the software and rerun configure and install the
> >Orca software again.
> >
> >Blair
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From budiw at idola.net.id  Fri Aug  6 12:23:13 1999
From: budiw at idola.net.id (Budi Wiyono)
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 12:23:13 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: `orca.state' & `find_files' errors
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990806122313.00b75db4@mail.idola.net.id>

From: Budi Wiyono <budiw at idola.net.id>

Dear Mr Blair,

I use Aplha/Digital Unix.
Should i use SE toolkit too ?

TIA,
Budi W

At 09:02 PM 8/5/99 -0700, Blair Zajac wrote:
>It looks like you have not installed the SE toolkit.  Follow
>the instructions in step 7 in the INSTALL file to install
>SE.  The bottom line is to go to
>
>http://www.sun.com/sun-on-net/performance/se3/
>
>and get the software and rerun configure and install the
>Orca software again.
>
>Blair


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From foo+orca at eek.org  Wed Aug 11 17:42:08 1999
From: foo+orca at eek.org (foo)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:42:08 -0500
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: stuttering and orca.state
In-Reply-To: <37B216C6.2A5CD689@raytheon.com>; from Mike DuFresne on Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 07:35:18PM -0500
References: <37B216C6.2A5CD689@raytheon.com>
Message-ID: <19990811194208.B6363@sfx.com>

From: foo <foo+orca at eek.org>

Mike, 

I see this on all of my 2.5.1 machines.

-Brian

Mike DuFresne wrote:
> From: Mike DuFresne <xdufresn at raytheon.com>
> 
> Hello list,
> 
> 	A while back I posted a message stating that one of my Orca processes
> was 'stuttering'. I have also noticed that the same machine is also
> sending out this message every 15 minutes:
> 
> /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/dleab/percol-1999-08-11' was current and
> now is not.
> 
> Anyone else seeing this?
> 
> Mike
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From bzajac at geostaff.com  Wed Aug 11 18:37:28 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:37:28 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: Orca
References: <3.0.32.19990811150544.006abf0c@mail-b.deakin.edu.au>
Message-ID: <37B22558.7647E900@geostaff.com>

Hello Bernard,

Apply the attached patch to Orca and it should work.  I just tried a similar
configuration myself and it worked.

Blair

PS Glad you liked Orca.


Bernard Hubbard wrote:
> 
> Dr. Blair Zajac
>         Hi, I am presently looking at orca for monitoring equipment at Deakin
> University and am impressed with what I've seen so far.  However I have
> tried a number of things to achieve plotting all the network interfaces
> from each of our machines on one graph per machine but have been unsucessful.
> 
> The best I have bee able to do is to get one graph per interface per machine.
> 
> The error message I get is that I have an "undefined array" and orca exits.
>  however that only occurs when I include different names in the one plot
> definition.  For example.
> 
> plot {
> title   %g Bits per Second:  All
> .
> data   1024 * 8 * le0InKB/s
> data   1024 * 8 * le0OuKB/s
> data   1024 * 8 * le1InKB/s
> data   1024 * 8 * le1OuKB/s
> .
> }
> 
> This I put down to the interface names being different.  If I remove either
> name it works for the remaining interface on its own.  It doesn't matter
> which one is left.
> 
> The plots already in the orcallator.cfg file for le0 and le1 run fine.
> 
> Although I hashed them out so that I wouldn't have duplicate references for
> le0 and le1 "Bits per Second" plots while I experimented.   We have several
> machines and they don't all have the same interface names.  ie:  not all
> have le1 for example.
> 
> I have orca running on one machine (sun equipment) and orcallator running
> on all of them.  I have the orcallator data dircetories nfs shared to the
> orca host.
> 
> I hope I've been reasonably clear for you.
> 
> I would greatly appreciate any advice on how to configure this.
> 
> Regards
> Bernard Hubbard
> Systems Administrator
> Deakin University
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*** orca-0.23 Wed Aug 11 18:30:29 1999 --- orca Wed Aug 11 18:11:20 1999 *************** *** 89,95 **** $bottom = '' unless defined $bottom; local *FD; ! open(FD, "> $filename") or return; print FD < --- 91,97 ---- $bottom = '' unless defined $bottom; local *FD; ! open(FD, "> $filename.tmp") or return; print FD < *************** *** 142,149 **** END close($self->{_handle}) or ! warn "$0: warning: cannot close `$self->{_filename}': $!\n"; } package Orca::OpenFileHash; --- 144,154 ---- END + my $filename = "$self->{_filename}"; close($self->{_handle}) or ! warn "$0: warning: cannot close `$filename.tmp': $!\n"; ! rename("$filename.tmp", $filename) or ! warn "$0: cannot rename `$filename.tmp' to `$filename': $!\n"; } package Orca::OpenFileHash; *************** *** 1435,1445 **** my
@group_name; for (my $j=0; $j<@datas; ++$j) { ! my $expr = "@{$datas[$j]}"; my $sub_expr_sub = undef; my $data_name = join('_', @{$plot->{data}[$j]}); if (defined $datas[$j]) { my $sub_expr = "sub {\n return $expr;\n}\n"; my $sub_expr_md5 = md5($sub_expr); --- 1449,1460 ---- my @group_name; for (my $j=0; $j<@datas; ++$j) { ! my $expr = undef; my $sub_expr_sub = undef; my $data_name = join('_', @{$plot->{data}[$j]}); if (defined $datas[$j]) { + $expr = "@{$datas[$j]}"; my $sub_expr = "sub {\n return $expr;\n}\n"; my $sub_expr_md5 = md5($sub_expr); *************** *** 2456,2466 **** } # Strip special characters from key names. ! sub strip_key_name { my $name = shift; $name =~ s/:/_/g; $name =~ s:/:_per_:g; $name =~ s:\s+:_:g; $name =~ s:%:_percent_:g; $name =~ s:#:_number_:g; $name =~
s:_{2,}:_:g; --- 2471,2482 ---- } # Strip special characters from key names. ! sub old_strip_key_name { my $name = shift; $name =~ s/:/_/g; $name =~ s:/:_per_:g; $name =~ s:\s+:_:g; + $name =~ s:\*:_times_:g; $name =~ s:%:_percent_:g; $name =~ s:#:_number_:g; $name =~ s:_{2,}:_:g; *************** *** 2471,2476 **** --- 2487,2517 ---- $name; } + # Replace special characters from key names, remove redundant characters, + # and shorten the names so the maximum path name is not exceeded. + sub strip_key_name { + my $name = shift; + + $name =~ s/:/_/g; + $name =~ s:/:_per_:g; + $name =~ s:\s+:_:g; + $name =~ s:%:_pct_:g; + $name =~ s:#:_num_:g; + $name =~ s:\*:_X_:g; + + # Trim anything containing orcallator, orca. + $name =~ s:orcallator:o:g; + $name =~ s:orca:o:g; + + # Remove trailing _'s. +
$name =~ s:_+$::; + $name =~ s:_+,:,:g; + + $name =~ s:_{2,}:_:g; + + $name; + } + # Return an list of the unique elements of a list. sub unique { my %a; *************** *** 2922,2927 **** --- 2963,2978 ---- $plot->{plot_width} = 500 unless $plot->{plot_width}; $plot->{plot_height} = 125 unless $plot->{plot_height}; + # Make sure the base is either 1000 or 1024. + if (defined $plot->{base} && length($plot->{base})) { + if ($plot->{base} != 1000 and $plot->{base} != 1024) { + die "$0: error: plot #$j must define base to be either 1000 or 1024.\n"; + } + } + else { + $plot->{base} = 1000; + } + # Set the plot minimum and maximum values to U unless they are # set. unless (defined $plot->{data_min}) {

From bzajac at geostaff.com  Thu Aug 12 11:54:34 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:54:34 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: stuttering and orca.state
References: <37B216C6.2A5CD689@raytheon.com> <19990811194208.B6363@sfx.com>
Message-ID: <37B3186A.D0F3560D@geostaff.com>

I checked the Orca output from all 20 of our 2.5.1 machines I
have not seen this on any of them.  Two possibilities here:

1) The systems are patched up enough to not have the problem.
2) My installation of the SE toolkit does not suffer from the
   problem.

I would first look at 2).  Are you both running SE 3.0 with all
of the patches installed on it?  Go through all the patches on

http://wwwwseast.usec.sun.com/sun-on-net/performance/se3/

and see if they are installed.

Blair


foo wrote:
> 
> From: foo <foo+orca at eek.org>
> 
> Mike,
> 
> I see this on all of my 2.5.1 machines.
> 
> -Brian
> 
> Mike DuFresne wrote:
> > From: Mike DuFresne <xdufresn at raytheon.com>
> >
> > Hello list,
> >
> >       A while back I posted a message stating that one of my Orca processes
> > was 'stuttering'. I have also noticed that the same machine is also
> > sending out this message every 15 minutes:
> >
> > /opt/orca/var/orca/orcallator/dleab/percol-1999-08-11' was current and
> > now is not.
> >
> > Anyone else seeing this?
> >
> > Mike
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From mick at iprolink.ch  Thu Aug 12 23:36:39 1999
From: mick at iprolink.ch (Mickey Coggins)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:36:39 +0200
Subject: [Orca-users] file was current and now is not
Message-ID: <001401bee556$32a86f00$a4285ec3@rat.noc.ch>

From: "Mickey Coggins" <mick at iprolink.ch>

Hi,

I get this message each time orca runs on all my data files:

/usr/local/bin/orca: warning: file 
  `/home/orca/raw_data/newyork..geneva/data.txt' was current 
   and now is not.

(all on one line, of course).

My data.txt file is something like this:

1234567  8901258

which is bytes in and out.   I re-write this file every 10 minutes,
and I have the orca interval set to 500 seconds.  I don't append
data to the data.txt file. 

Anyone have an idea what I am doing wrong?

Thanks,
Mickey

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From bzajac at geostaff.com  Fri Aug 13 11:04:18 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:04:18 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: file was current and now is not
References: <001401bee556$32a86f00$a4285ec3@rat.noc.ch>
Message-ID: <37B45E22.E66640BE@geostaff.com>

Well, this can happen when you don't have the interval set in orca
set to the same interval as the data is being recorded.  In this
case, you should probably change the interval to 600 seconds.

You also now have the problem that the RRD file is interpolating
your data to 500 second intervals and you're recording every 600
seconds.  This can cause some missing data in the RRD file.  If
you don't have too much data, you may want to delete the RRD files
and have them record new data.  If this doesn't work, you can do
a dump of the file and create a new RRD file.  I don't know how
to do this however.  This may be a good question for the rrd
tool mailing list.

Also, the interval specified to orca is used in determining if
a source data file is old or not and if Orca will print the
warning you are seeing.  Change the 500 to 600 and this should
also go away.

Blair

Mickey Coggins wrote:
> 
> From: "Mickey Coggins" <mick at iprolink.ch>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I get this message each time orca runs on all my data files:
> 
> /usr/local/bin/orca: warning: file
>   `/home/orca/raw_data/newyork..geneva/data.txt' was current
>    and now is not.
> 
> (all on one line, of course).
> 
> My data.txt file is something like this:
> 
> 1234567  8901258
> 
> which is bytes in and out.   I re-write this file every 10 minutes,
> and I have the orca interval set to 500 seconds.  I don't append
> data to the data.txt file.
> 
> Anyone have an idea what I am doing wrong?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mickey
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From bzajac at geostaff.com  Fri Aug 13 12:24:16 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:24:16 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: ORCA ORCA ORCA
References: <37B46FDF.7024696C@uswest.com>
Message-ID: <37B470E0.5ECF2FE@geostaff.com>

Great, I'm glad you like the tool.

Yes, I am fully aware of this mrmory usage.  I am working on a new
release which should reduce the memory usage considerably.

Blair

PS Please email the orca-help at onelist.com mailing list in the future for
any Orca questions.

"Lyle A. Merdan" wrote:
> 
> I like the tool!
> 
> I have to ask: What is the typical memory usage of the orca process?
> 
> I am logging 4 machines and the memory usage of orca is huge!
> 
> Here is a snapshot of top a few minutes after I start orca
> 
> last pid: 13650;  load averages:  0.80,  0.74,  0.57                   14:14:00
> 
> 55 processes:  53 sleeping, 1 zombie, 1 on cpu
> 
> CPU states: 93.3% idle,  6.3% user,  0.4% kernel,  0.0% iowait,  0.0% swap
> 
> Memory: 512M real, 56M free, 168M swap in use, 2236M swap free
> 
>   PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATE   TIME    CPU COMMAND
> 
> 13557 root       1   8    4   78M   75M sleep   6:32 32.60% orca
> 
> 13150 build      1  58    0 1600K 1408K cpu1    0:20  0.31% top
> 
>   208 root       6   1    0 3960K 1968K sleep  45:57  0.06% automountd
> 
>   267 root       1  58    0  904K  520K sleep   0:14  0.02% utmpd
> 
>   570 root       1  58    0   21M 5056K sleep  31:29  0.00% se.sparc.5.6
> 
>  7753 root      21  51    0 3344K 2464K sleep  14:11  0.00% nscd
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Lyle


From bzajac at geostaff.com  Fri Aug 13 17:37:55 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:37:55 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: Problem with LARGE data values displayed in Orca
 0.23
References: <000401bee006$226320e0$1a4a10ac@sean.cen.com>
Message-ID: <37B4BA63.E81C5BBB@geostaff.com>

Sean,

It looks like the pp_kernel problem is a SE problem.

As for the NFS call rate, I'm seeing the same behavior myself on
some of my systems, some 100 G calls/second.  I'll take a look into
this when I get a chance.  Again, this may be a SE problem, since I'm
just reporting the lr_rpcclient_t$calls variable.

Blair


Sean O'Neill wrote:
> 
> From: "Sean O'Neill" <sean.oneill at appnet.com>
> 
> Below are partial listings (lots of data).
> 
> - The pp_kernel column changed but the size of the number stayed constant
> throughout the listing.
> 
> # /usr/local/orca/bin/orcallator_column -c pagestotl -c pp_kernel -c
> free_pages orcallator-*
>               Machine  locltime pagestotl pp_kernel free_pages
> orcallator-1999-08-06  07:35:00 255067.00 4294945675.00   4171.00
> orcallator-1999-08-06  07:40:00 255067.00 4294945675.00   4188.00
> orcallator-1999-08-06  07:45:00 255067.00 4294945655.00   4060.00
> orcallator-1999-08-06  07:50:00 255067.00 4294945659.00   4034.00
> orcallator-1999-08-06  07:55:00 255067.00 4294945674.00   4070.00
> orcallator-1999-08-06  08:00:00 255067.00 4294945671.00   4073.00
> orcallator-1999-08-06  08:05:00 255067.00 4294945682.00   4076.00
> orcallator-1999-08-06  08:10:00 255067.00 4294945686.00   4099.00
> 
> - The nfs_call/s column was zero except for the two data listings below.
> Like I said in my previous post, this system is an NFS client not a server
> (whether that is important or not I'm not sure).
> 
> # /usr/local/orca/bin/orcallator_column -c nfs_call/s orcallator-*
>               Machine  locltime nfs_call/s
> orcallator-1999-08-05  08:45:00      0.00
> orcallator-1999-08-05  08:50:00      0.00
> orcallator-1999-08-05  08:55:01 727718711.28
> orcallator-1999-08-05  09:00:00      0.00
> orcallator-1999-08-05  09:05:00      0.00
> orcallator-1999-08-05  09:10:00 1145324612.27
> orcallator-1999-08-05  09:15:00      0.00
> orcallator-1999-08-05  09:20:00      0.00
> 
> Since these files were generated by orcallator.se this looks like its an SE
> Toolkit or orcallator.se file problem ??
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Blair Zajac [mailto:bzajac at geostaff.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 11:21 PM
> > To: orca-help at onelist.com
> > Cc: Sean O'Neill
> > Subject: Re: [orca-help] Problem with LARGE data values displayed in
> > Orca 0.23
> >
> >
> > Sean,
> >
> > Can you check the text files orcallator.se is generating to see if the
> > problem is from orcallator.se or somewhere after orcallator?  There
> > is a program that comes with orca named orcallator_column that
> > will display the values for a particular column if you give it the
> > -c option followed by the column name.
> >
> > You'll probably want to run
> >
> > orcallator_column -c pagestotl -c pp_kernel -c free_pages percol-*
> >
> > and
> >
> > orcallator_column -c nfs_call/s percol-*
> >
> > If these values look fine but the plots don't, send me the percol-*
> > files and I'll try to see what is going on when them.
> >
> > Blair
> >
> >
> > Sean O'Neill wrote:
> >
> > > From: "Sean O'Neill" <sean.oneill at appnet.com>
> > >
> > > I'm having a problem with Orca 0.23 in how it displays data for the
> > > following system:
> > >
> > > Ultra 450
> > > Solaris 2.6
> > > 2GB of memory
> > > Orca 0.23 (running orcallator only - RRD running on another
> > system - RRD is
> > > the
> > > version distributed with Orca v0.23)
> > >
> > > In the Daily Page Usage chart, I get the following numbers
> > for Current
> > > usage:
> > >
> > > Kernel: 4294941604.000000
> > > Free List: 202801.000000
> > > Other: 211219.000000
> > > System Total: 255067.000000
> > >
> > > Because the Kernel is showing up so large (I'm not paging
> > thrashing BTW - my
> > > kernel isn't this big), the graph is completely green.  I
> > have another
> > > system running Solaris 7 (much smaller system) in which
> > this graph appears
> > > to work fine.  Also, the NFS Call Rate graph shows the
> > exact same behavior:
> > >
> > > Average: 10137670.554552
> > > Max: 1145324612.267000
> > >
> > > The data above was shown after the system had been up only
> > 2 hours.  BTW,
> > > I'd like to see any system that could handle this kind of
> > load !!!! :)  This
> > > system is using NFS to write the orcallator data to the RRD server.
> > >
> > > Any ideas on why Kernel and the NFS call rate are showing
> > up so large?  Is
> > > this a SE Tool problem?  Something in the Orca
> > configuration I can tweak?
> > >
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From bzajac at geostaff.com  Fri Aug 13 17:49:29 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:49:29 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: Problem with LARGE data values displayed in Orca
 0.23
References: <000401bee006$226320e0$1a4a10ac@sean.cen.com>
Message-ID: <37B4BD19.DAD41252@geostaff.com>

Here's a test script for the NFS call rate problem.  Run this and save
the output:


#include <p_iostat_class.se>
#include <p_netstat_class.se>
#include <p_vmstat_class.se>
#include <pure_rules.se>
#include <live_rules.se>
lr_rpcclient_t  lr_rpcclient$r;
lr_rpcclient_t  tmp_lr_rpcclient;

int main()
{
  long now;
  char tm_buf[32];
  tm_t tm_now;
  while (1 == 1) {
    tmp_lr_rpcclient = lr_rpcclient$r;
    now    = time(0);
    tm_now = localtime(&now);
    strftime(tm_buf, sizeof(tm_buf), "%Y-%M-%D %T", tm_now);
    printf("%10d %s %25.5f\n", now, tm_buf, tmp_lr_rpcclient.calls);
    sleep(300);
  }

  return 0;
}


Blair


Sean O'Neill wrote:
> 
> From: "Sean O'Neill" <sean.oneill at appnet.com>
> 
> Below are partial listings (lots of data).
> 
> - The pp_kernel column changed but the size of the number stayed constant
> throughout the listing.
> 
> # /usr/local/orca/bin/orcallator_column -c pagestotl -c pp_kernel -c
> free_pages orcallator-*
>               Machine  locltime pagestotl pp_kernel free_pages
> orcallator-1999-08-06  07:35:00 255067.00 4294945675.00   4171.00
> orcallator-1999-08-06  07:40:00 255067.00 4294945675.00   4188.00
> orcallator-1999-08-06  07:45:00 255067.00 4294945655.00   4060.00
> orcallator-1999-08-06  07:50:00 255067.00 4294945659.00   4034.00
> orcallator-1999-08-06  07:55:00 255067.00 4294945674.00   4070.00
> orcallator-1999-08-06  08:00:00 255067.00 4294945671.00   4073.00
> orcallator-1999-08-06  08:05:00 255067.00 4294945682.00   4076.00
> orcallator-1999-08-06  08:10:00 255067.00 4294945686.00   4099.00
> 
> - The nfs_call/s column was zero except for the two data listings below.
> Like I said in my previous post, this system is an NFS client not a server
> (whether that is important or not I'm not sure).
> 
> # /usr/local/orca/bin/orcallator_column -c nfs_call/s orcallator-*
>               Machine  locltime nfs_call/s
> orcallator-1999-08-05  08:45:00      0.00
> orcallator-1999-08-05  08:50:00      0.00
> orcallator-1999-08-05  08:55:01 727718711.28
> orcallator-1999-08-05  09:00:00      0.00
> orcallator-1999-08-05  09:05:00      0.00
> orcallator-1999-08-05  09:10:00 1145324612.27
> orcallator-1999-08-05  09:15:00      0.00
> orcallator-1999-08-05  09:20:00      0.00
> 
> Since these files were generated by orcallator.se this looks like its an SE
> Toolkit or orcallator.se file problem ??
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Blair Zajac [mailto:bzajac at geostaff.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 11:21 PM
> > To: orca-help at onelist.com
> > Cc: Sean O'Neill
> > Subject: Re: [orca-help] Problem with LARGE data values displayed in
> > Orca 0.23
> >
> >
> > Sean,
> >
> > Can you check the text files orcallator.se is generating to see if the
> > problem is from orcallator.se or somewhere after orcallator?  There
> > is a program that comes with orca named orcallator_column that
> > will display the values for a particular column if you give it the
> > -c option followed by the column name.
> >
> > You'll probably want to run
> >
> > orcallator_column -c pagestotl -c pp_kernel -c free_pages percol-*
> >
> > and
> >
> > orcallator_column -c nfs_call/s percol-*
> >
> > If these values look fine but the plots don't, send me the percol-*
> > files and I'll try to see what is going on when them.
> >
> > Blair
> >
> >
> > Sean O'Neill wrote:
> >
> > > From: "Sean O'Neill" <sean.oneill at appnet.com>
> > >
> > > I'm having a problem with Orca 0.23 in how it displays data for the
> > > following system:
> > >
> > > Ultra 450
> > > Solaris 2.6
> > > 2GB of memory
> > > Orca 0.23 (running orcallator only - RRD running on another
> > system - RRD is
> > > the
> > > version distributed with Orca v0.23)
> > >
> > > In the Daily Page Usage chart, I get the following numbers
> > for Current
> > > usage:
> > >
> > > Kernel: 4294941604.000000
> > > Free List: 202801.000000
> > > Other: 211219.000000
> > > System Total: 255067.000000
> > >
> > > Because the Kernel is showing up so large (I'm not paging
> > thrashing BTW - my
> > > kernel isn't this big), the graph is completely green.  I
> > have another
> > > system running Solaris 7 (much smaller system) in which
> > this graph appears
> > > to work fine.  Also, the NFS Call Rate graph shows the
> > exact same behavior:
> > >
> > > Average: 10137670.554552
> > > Max: 1145324612.267000
> > >
> > > The data above was shown after the system had been up only
> > 2 hours.  BTW,
> > > I'd like to see any system that could handle this kind of
> > load !!!! :)  This
> > > system is using NFS to write the orcallator data to the RRD server.
> > >
> > > Any ideas on why Kernel and the NFS call rate are showing
> > up so large?  Is
> > > this a SE Tool problem?  Something in the Orca
> > configuration I can tweak?
> > >
> > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> > > Sean O'Neill
> > > AppNet, Inc.
> > > 301-953-3330
> > > soneill at cen.com
> > > soneill at centurycomputing.com
> > > sean.oneill at appnet.com
> > >
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From bzajac at geostaff.com  Mon Aug 16 15:48:37 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:48:37 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: orcan!
References: <930586888.942.197@excite.com>
Message-ID: <37B89545.67F3AEF@geostaff.com>

Hi Tony,

Sorry for taking so long reply.

Currently Orca only handles space separated files.  I'm working on a new
version that can handle arbitrarly formatted text files, but that won't
happen for a while yet.

You could apply the following patch that would separate on commas instead
of spaces.

I don't currently have too many configuration examples either.

Cheers,
Blair


tony barratt wrote:
> 
> hi,
> i'm quite keen to use orcan to publish some (actually lots) gifs of server
> stats. I'm gonna start with the NT boxen, and work my way towards the
> solaris boxes via the bsd boxes.
> c 100 in all.
> So i've got my comma separated files for the NT machines that look like
> this:
> [tonyb at americium ~/orca-0.23]
> $ ls /home/tonyb/data/ntperf/*.csv
> /home/tonyb/data/ntperf/cerium_062316.csv
> /home/tonyb/data/ntperf/cerium_062415.csv
> 
> $ head -2 cerium_062316.csv
> " Sample Time","\\OFF-APP\Processor(0)\% Processor Time",
> "\\OFF-APP\Memory\Committed Bytes", "\\OFFAPP\Memory\Available Bytes"
> "06/23/1999 16:07:22.506","0.98574194684034611","74948608","203624448"
> 
> $ orca -v /home/tonyb/orca-0.23/lib/ntperf.cfg
> Orca version 0.23 using RRDs version 0.99031.
> Creating orca.gif.
> Creating rrdtool.gif.
> /usr/local/bin/orca: warning: cannot open state file
> `/home/tonyb/orca.state' for reading: No such file or directory
> Finding files and setting up data structures at Mon Jun 28 18:13:30 1999.
> ^* matches null string many times at /usr/local/bin/orca line 2395, <DATA>
> chunk 827.
> /usr/local/bin/orca: warning: internal error: found
> `/home/tonyb/data/ntperf/cerium_062316.csv' but no regexp match for it.
> 
> $ cat /home/tonyb/orca-0.23/lib/ntperf.cfg
> state_file              /home/tonyb/orca.state
> data_dir                /home/tonyb/data/ntperf
> html_dir                /var/www/docs/orca/ntperf
> expire_gifs             1
> 
> # This defines where the find the source data files and the format of those
> # files.
> files ntperf {
> find_files              /home/tonyb/data/ntperf/*.csv
> column_description      first_line
> date_source             column_name Time
> date_format             %s
> interval                300
> reopen                  1
> }
> 
> html_top_title          UUnet NT Performance
> 
> html_page_header
>   <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%">
>     <tr>
>     </tr>
>   </table>
>   <spacer type=vertical size=4>
> 
> html_page_footer
>   <spacer type=vertical size=20>
>   <font face="Arial,Helvetica">
>     These plots brought to you by Orca
>   </font>
> 
> plot {
> title                   %g System Load
> source                  ntperf
> data                    1load
> data                    5load
> data                    15load
> legend                  1 Minute Average
> legend                  5 Minute Average
> legend                  15 Minute Average
> y_legend                Load
> data_min                0
> data_max                200
> }
> 
> </end cat>
> 
> So i am going to read through the docs and try and sort this tonight.
> But if you can offer some guidance/help that would be great.
> There's a note somewhere that orca can parse space separated input files. If
> that's the (only) problem, then it will be the work of a moment to fix.
> 
> But there again my plot{ ... } seems a bit dodgy..
> I couldn't find any sample data files with sample config file with sample
> output, but hah i haven't looked properly yet.
> 
> Groetjes
> 
> Tony
> 
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*** orca.pl-0.23	Thu May 27 10:50:44 1999
--- orca.pl	Mon Aug 16 15:47:28 1999
***************
*** 1107,1113 ****
    chomp($line);
    if ($line) {
      $self->{_first_line} = 1;
!     my @line = split(' ', $line);
      my $cache_key = md5(join("\200", @line));
      unless (defined $first_line_cache{$cache_key}) {
        $first_line_cache{$cache_key} = \@line;
--- 1107,1113 ----
    chomp($line);
    if ($line) {
      $self->{_first_line} = 1;
!     my @line = split(',', $line);
      my $cache_key = md5(join("\200", @line));
      unless (defined $first_line_cache{$cache_key}) {
        $first_line_cache{$cache_key} = \@line;
***************
*** 1610,1616 ****
      # in the output file when it starts up.
      next if $line =~ /timestamp/;
  
!     my @line = split(' ', $line);
  
      # Skip this input line if 1) the file uses the first line to
      # define the column names, 2) the number of columns loaded is not
--- 1610,1616 ----
      # in the output file when it starts up.
      next if $line =~ /timestamp/;
  
!     my @line = split(',', $line);
  
      # Skip this input line if 1) the file uses the first line to
      # define the column names, 2) the number of columns loaded is not

From chaya at gstworld.net  Wed Aug 18 09:43:16 1999
From: chaya at gstworld.net (Chris Hufnagel)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:43:16 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] start_orcallator as root?
Message-ID: <199908181643.JAA02410@thing2.gstworld>

From: Chris Hufnagel <chaya at gstworld.net>


I'm running Orca 0.23 on Solaris 2.6 boxes at the moment and I've run
start_orcallator as root and as an regular user with no noticable difference 
in data collection or graph output.

Is there something inherently wrong about not running start_orcallator as 
root?

PS.  Thanks to Blair and all those involved with Orca development!  This is 
a great piece of software!

-chris

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From bzajac at geostaff.com  Wed Aug 18 10:00:14 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:00:14 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: start_orcallator as root?
References: <199908181643.JAA02410@thing2.gstworld>
Message-ID: <37BAE69E.14C1AE86@geostaff.com>

Chris,

Great to hear that Orca is useful.

Currently I believe orcallator.se does not require root access, but the
next version will measure the process spawn rate only if the process
is running as root.

Blair


Chris Hufnagel wrote:
> 
> From: Chris Hufnagel <chaya at gstworld.net>
> 
> I'm running Orca 0.23 on Solaris 2.6 boxes at the moment and I've run
> start_orcallator as root and as an regular user with no noticable difference
> in data collection or graph output.
> 
> Is there something inherently wrong about not running start_orcallator as
> root?
> 
> PS.  Thanks to Blair and all those involved with Orca development!  This is
> a great piece of software!
> 
> -chris
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From tadds at dbn.net  Thu Aug 19 10:02:43 1999
From: tadds at dbn.net (tadds at dbn.net)
Date: 19 Aug 1999 17:02:43 -0000
Subject: [Orca-users] Measureware data files
Message-ID: <935082163.30376@onelist.com>

From: tadds at dbn.net

I read somewhere in the manuals that Orca can read 
in space separated data files, correct?

If so, what modifications do I need to do to setup 
the Orca environment to read in special formatting
from the measurware data files that are exported
 and extracted to ascii data files?

I am planning on using Orca as a front-end for
my programs to just read in the measureware data
files. Can I just bypass RRD in Orca or would
I have to make some special adjustments?

During the install of Orca, the process appeared
to be hung - it locked up at the prompt "
pod2html > orca.html" - I had to control-c 
to break out of it because it was hung for
over an hour with no observable progress.
Does that mean the orca install is corrupt?


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From bzajac at geostaff.com  Thu Aug 19 11:29:34 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:29:34 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: Measureware data files
References: <935082163.30376@onelist.com>
Message-ID: <37BC4D0E.FED7AFD0@geostaff.com>

Hello,

tadds at dbn.net wrote:
> 
> From: tadds at dbn.net
> 
> I read somewhere in the manuals that Orca can read
> in space separated data files, correct?

Yes, currently it only reads in space separated files, but in
the future it will handle arbitrarly formatted files.

> 
> If so, what modifications do I need to do to setup
> the Orca environment to read in special formatting
> from the measurware data files that are exported
>  and extracted to ascii data files?

Well, you'll probably want to wait for the next version of
Orca or go in and edit the Orca::SourceDataFile class to
handle your specific format.

> 
> I am planning on using Orca as a front-end for
> my programs to just read in the measureware data
> files. Can I just bypass RRD in Orca or would
> I have to make some special adjustments?

RRD generates the GIFs and PNGs, so you cannot skip it.

> 
> During the install of Orca, the process appeared
> to be hung - it locked up at the prompt "
> pod2html > orca.html" - I had to control-c
> to break out of it because it was hung for
> over an hour with no observable progress.
> Does that mean the orca install is corrupt?

No, this just generated a HTML documentation file.  Everything
else should work.

Blair


From ptaylor at catalystsg.com  Thu Aug 19 12:12:14 1999
From: ptaylor at catalystsg.com (ptaylor at catalystsg.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:12:14 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Orca-users] SAR question, and response: Re: Measureware
In-Reply-To: <935081693.10127@onelist.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9908191905460.2729-100000@home.martnet.com>

From: <ptaylor at catalystsg.com>

You have to get the perl pod module installed. If you are running linux,
you can get it in rpm form from http://rufus.w3.net/

On the subject of space delimited files, can anyone tell me how to parse a
sar file from an AIX based sar command? here is some of the output that I
have to contend with:


AIX emb21008 3 4 000038704C00    08/16/99

00:00:00 scall/s sread/s swrit/s  fork/s  exec/s rchar/s wchar/s
00:15:00    1303     198      25    0.85    0.81  858931  102394
00:30:00    2574     306    1159    0.84    0.80 1039283  529155
01:00:00     122      12      12    0.43    0.38    9776   25020
01:15:00   10224    2871    3016    0.38    0.34 3242259 1453084

etc...

Can anyone lend me a clue? Thanks..


Paul Taylor
Systems Engineer
Catalyst Solutions Group
215-841-5540

On 19 Aug 1999 tadds at dbn.net wrote:

> From: tadds at dbn.net
> 
> I read somewhere the Orca can take in space-separated files, correct?
> If so, what additional steps do I need to configure the columns and headings
> so it will read the formated exported data file from Measureware?
> 
> If I wanted to just use Orca to process the data and graph them and put it in html pages and not use the 
> RRD tool, then what kind of configuration would I have to use
> in order to do this?
> 
> Also, during the installation, after running the "make install", the install process locked up at the "pod2html > orca.html" 
> line. It didnt go any further than that - I had to control-c to
> break out after waiting for more than an hour of no progress. Does that mean 
> that my installation is corrupted?
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
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From bzajac at geostaff.com  Thu Aug 19 12:20:38 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:20:38 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: SAR question, and response: Re: Measureware
References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9908191905460.2729-100000@home.martnet.com>
Message-ID: <37BC5906.7B827DA1@geostaff.com>

Well, currently Orca cannot handle this.  It will soon however.  There
are several problems with this format.

The first is that you'll have to convert the time of the day into a
Unix epoch time (seconds since 1970) and to do this you'll need the
date that the data was generated.  Secondly, you'd have to tell Orca
how to ignore the lines without data.  All of this will be possible
soon.

Blair

ptaylor at catalystsg.com wrote:
> 
> From: <ptaylor at catalystsg.com>
> 
> You have to get the perl pod module installed. If you are running linux,
> you can get it in rpm form from http://rufus.w3.net/
> 
> On the subject of space delimited files, can anyone tell me how to parse a
> sar file from an AIX based sar command? here is some of the output that I
> have to contend with:
> 
> AIX emb21008 3 4 000038704C00    08/16/99
> 
> 00:00:00 scall/s sread/s swrit/s  fork/s  exec/s rchar/s wchar/s
> 00:15:00    1303     198      25    0.85    0.81  858931  102394
> 00:30:00    2574     306    1159    0.84    0.80 1039283  529155
> 01:00:00     122      12      12    0.43    0.38    9776   25020
> 01:15:00   10224    2871    3016    0.38    0.34 3242259 1453084
> 
> etc...
> 
> Can anyone lend me a clue? Thanks..
> 
> Paul Taylor
> Systems Engineer
> Catalyst Solutions Group
> 215-841-5540
> 
> On 19 Aug 1999 tadds at dbn.net wrote:
> 
> > From: tadds at dbn.net
> >
> > I read somewhere the Orca can take in space-separated files, correct?
> > If so, what additional steps do I need to configure the columns and headings
> > so it will read the formated exported data file from Measureware?
> >
> > If I wanted to just use Orca to process the data and graph them and put it in html pages and not use the
> > RRD tool, then what kind of configuration would I have to use
> > in order to do this?
> >
> > Also, during the installation, after running the "make install", the install process locked up at the "pod2html > orca.html"
> > line. It didnt go any further than that - I had to control-c to
> > break out after waiting for more than an hour of no progress. Does that mean
> > that my installation is corrupted?
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
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From duncanl at demon.net  Tue Aug 24 01:40:27 1999
From: duncanl at demon.net (Duncan Lawie)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:40:27 +0100
Subject: [Orca-users] intervals and RRDs
Message-ID: <37C25A7B.6F5DE5B6@demon.net>

From: Duncan Lawie <duncanl at demon.net>


Hi,

I have orca running for a set of systems.  orcallator is running on each

system with the default 300 second interval.  However, the data produced

is only rsynched to the web server every twenty minutes.  To avoid the
"file not current" message, I have set the interval in orcallator.cfg to

1200 i.e. 20 minutes.

I am now concerned about an earlier message concerning RRD and missing
data points.

> You also now have the problem that the RRD file is interpolating
> your data to 500 second intervals and you're recording every 600
> seconds.  This can cause some missing data in the RRD file.  If
> you don't have too much data, you may want to delete the RRD files
> and have them record new data.  If this doesn't work, you can do
> a dump of the file and create a new RRD file.  I don't know how
> to do this however.  This may be a good question for the rrd
> tool mailing list.

Is this relevant to this case?

Am I better off setting the late_interval value to interval + 950?

Cheers,

Duncan.



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From bzajac at geostaff.com  Tue Aug 24 09:42:47 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:42:47 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: intervals and RRDs
References: <37C25A7B.6F5DE5B6@demon.net>
Message-ID: <37C2CB87.34A2439F@geostaff.com>

If you are running a Solaris 2.5.1 host, then this behavior has been
observed.  I would keep the interval at 300 seconds and change the
late interval to interval + 950.

Blair

Duncan Lawie wrote:
> 
> From: Duncan Lawie <duncanl at demon.net>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have orca running for a set of systems.  orcallator is running on each
> 
> system with the default 300 second interval.  However, the data produced
> 
> is only rsynched to the web server every twenty minutes.  To avoid the
> "file not current" message, I have set the interval in orcallator.cfg to
> 
> 1200 i.e. 20 minutes.
> 
> I am now concerned about an earlier message concerning RRD and missing
> data points.
> 
> > You also now have the problem that the RRD file is interpolating
> > your data to 500 second intervals and you're recording every 600
> > seconds.  This can cause some missing data in the RRD file.  If
> > you don't have too much data, you may want to delete the RRD files
> > and have them record new data.  If this doesn't work, you can do
> > a dump of the file and create a new RRD file.  I don't know how
> > to do this however.  This may be a good question for the rrd
> > tool mailing list.
> 
> Is this relevant to this case?
> 
> Am I better off setting the late_interval value to interval + 950?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Duncan.
> 
> --
> Duncan Lawie
> duncanl at demon.net
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From bzajac at geostaff.com  Tue Aug 24 15:18:19 1999
From: bzajac at geostaff.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:18:19 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: definitions for performance measures
References: <935532570.26451@onelist.com>
Message-ID: <37C31A2B.3D94537F@geostaff.com>

Not yet, but you can find some information on these at the SunWorld
archive for Performance Q&A

http://www.sunworld.com/sunworldonline/common/swol-backissues-columns.html#perf

Here's one couple of URL that may help

http://www.sunworld.com/sunworldonline/swol-03-1996/swol-03-perf.html

I plan on writing such a document, but it won't happen for a while.

Blair



christad at lsil.com wrote:
> 
> From: christad at lsil.com
> 
> Has anyone compiled a list of definitions for each
> of the collected data points / graphs created
> by orca ?
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From duncanl at demon.net  Wed Aug 25 09:10:00 1999
From: duncanl at demon.net (Duncan Lawie)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:10:00 +0100
Subject: [Orca-users] multiple .cfg files / multiple orcas
Message-ID: <37C41558.A907BBB1@demon.net>

Hi,

I reckon orca is pretty cool.  I'm even not bothered about the old
whitespace thing, and I reckon I've got some dangerous ideas, but I'll
try to keep (most of) them to myself for the moment.


1.  I am planning to collect stats on Oracle database performance as
well as for Solaris hosts.  I have created a sample source file and a
separate orcora.cfg and run orca with this file and it all works fine.
As I see it, this is the only way to go i.e
         new source file means new .cfg means extra orca running

Is this correct?

2.  I am thinking about collecting extra stats per disk (as referred to
in the Paul Company's TODO comments).  However, putting these stats into
the main web page makes it half a mile long when you've got a couple of
arrays.  I can collect all this extra data with some fairly minor
orcallator configuration changes BUT
        Is it sensible to run two orcas with different .cfg files
looking at different columns of the same source file?
        Alternatively, without messing dangerously with the internals of
Orca, can I display the disk detail on a separate web page?

I hope soon to be able to offer answers as well as questions :-)

Best Wishes,

Duncan.
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