From bsirinek at cme.com  Thu Dec  2 11:45:05 1999
From: bsirinek at cme.com (bsirinek at cme.com)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:45:05 -0600
Subject: [Orca-users] two orca problems
Message-ID: <000a01bf3cfe$c34d0e30$8ec81e0a@chicago.cme.com>

From: bsirinek at cme.com

I'm running orca 0.25 and orcallator.se-1.20.txt on an Sun E4500 and Solaris
2.6 (monitoring 15 boxes) and am having two problems

1) Upon starting orca, dozens of gunzip processes start up and never die
(though they are not using any cpu time). These never go away and become
defunct if I kill them. I did indeed set the ulimit to 256, as the mailing
list and documentation state. :)

2) Every night at midnight when the logs rotate and move to the next day I
get one mail per server saying
"/usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/<servername>/percol-yyyy-mm-dd did exist and
is now gone". I know *why* I get this (the file is gzipped, and the name
changed because of the gz extension), but I'd like to know how/if I can stop
it, aside from disabling all mail, and thus missing genuine orca error
mails.

Bill Sirinek
Open Systems Engineer
30 S. Wacker Dr.  9th Floor
Chicago, IL 60606
(312) 930-8151

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From arnaud at ukibi.com  Thu Dec  2 12:56:57 1999
From: arnaud at ukibi.com (Arnaud)
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 21:56:57 +0100
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: two orca problems
References: <000a01bf3cfe$c34d0e30$8ec81e0a@chicago.cme.com>
Message-ID: <3846DD19.F509A035@ukibi.com>

From: Arnaud <arnaud at ukibi.com>

bsirinek at cme.com wrote:

> From: bsirinek at cme.com
>
> I'm running orca 0.25 and orcallator.se-1.20.txt on an Sun E4500 and Solaris
> 2.6 (monitoring 15 boxes) and am having two problems
>
> 1) Upon starting orca, dozens of gunzip processes start up and never die
> (though they are not using any cpu time). These never go away and become
> defunct if I kill them. I did indeed set the ulimit to 256, as the mailing
> list and documentation state. :)

You have gunzip because you have .gz files in
"orca/var/orca/orcallator/`hostname`/  and you run orca continously (orca is
configured to open .gz files as you can see in  orca/lib/orcallator.cfg).

I solve this by running orca only once (-o option) per hour (launched by
crontab), and by moving elsewhere the .gz file corresponding to the current day
after it has been parsed (by crontab after midnight).

It is not very elegant but it works (for me).

>
>
> 2) Every night at midnight when the logs rotate and move to the next day I
> get one mail per server saying
> "/usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/<servername>/percol-yyyy-mm-dd did exist and
> is now gone". I know *why* I get this (the file is gzipped, and the name
> changed because of the gz extension), but I'd like to know how/if I can stop
> it, aside from disabling all mail, and thus missing genuine orca error
> mails.
>

I am not sure but I think you can comment the email line in
orca/lib/orcallator.cfg.

I hope it will help you (I am new to orca so there are probably a lot of tricks
to learn...)

Arnaud

--
Arnaud Lebrun
E-AdBook, Inc.
http://www.ukibi.com/arnaud.lebrun/

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From jplopes at novis.pt  Mon Dec  6 04:57:51 1999
From: jplopes at novis.pt (LOPES Jose Pedro)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:57:51 -0000 
Subject: [Orca-users] Problems in running Orca
Message-ID: <E151D11AFD23D311845D00508B015F0A01EDF100@mts01ex03>


> Hello.
> 
> I have instaled Orca in an AIX system.
> I think the instalation is OK, but I don't have any configuration file
> (CONFIG_FILE).
> Could any one send one, so it could be an example for me to folow ?
> Thanks.
> 
> Best regards,
> Pedro Lopes

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From JerryAlexandratos at FirstUSA.com  Wed Dec 29 06:55:05 1999
From: JerryAlexandratos at FirstUSA.com (Alexandratos, Jerry (FUSA))
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:55:05 -0500
Subject: [Orca-users] FW: failure notice
Message-ID: <6FADB9008705D311BBEB00805FE6B0EE398173@swilnts817.bwp.fusa.com>

From: "Alexandratos, Jerry (FUSA)" <JerryAlexandratos at FirstUSA.com>

I'm having some problems with the way Orca is generating graphs.  Basically,
it appears as though erroneous information is being put into the X & Y axis
of the graphs it generates.

If you look at the Yahoo!/GeoCities example off of the Orca home page you
can see what I'm talking about (or follow)

http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/orca-example/o_1runq,o_5runq,o_15runq
-daily.html

Let's say you compare host1 and host2, you can see that the values for the
two machines don't seem to be measuring the same thing.  On host1, the 
load/runq is measured as "xxx.xxx m" while host2 is "x.xxx".  Also, the
range on the Y-axis goes from "0-100" on host1, but "0-100+ m" on host2.

Does anyone know why the data being generated isn't consistent across all
the machines (I'm seeing the same problem)?  Is there a way to fix this?
Also,what does the "m" stand for?

Thanks in advance...

	--Jerry

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From bjohnson at mail.photonet.com  Wed Dec 29 10:02:53 1999
From: bjohnson at mail.photonet.com (bjohnson at mail.photonet.com)
Date: 29 Dec 1999 18:02:53 -0000
Subject: [Orca-users] Eliminating outmoded data and plots
Message-ID: <946490573.18592@onelist.com>

From: bjohnson at mail.photonet.com

One of the machines in my Orca installation was switched from one model of
computer to another, so that the network interface changed, and there are
are plot files hanging around for a device named qfe0 that isn't there any
more.

How can I get rid of these without losing all my historical data?  My first
crack at it was this:

1. Stop Orca
2. Run a utility to remove the offending column(s) from all the percollator
files for the machine in question.
3. Go into the RRD directory for the machine and delete all the files for
the offending column(s).
4. Make sure the plot is optional in the orcallator.cfg.
5. Restart Orca.

This seems to have worked under Orca 0.23.  Is there anything that I may have
missed that might bite me?

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From bjohnson at mail.photonet.com  Wed Dec 29 10:05:50 1999
From: bjohnson at mail.photonet.com (bjohnson at mail.photonet.com)
Date: 29 Dec 1999 18:05:50 -0000
Subject: [Orca-users] Cleanup of old percollator files
Message-ID: <946490750.20904@onelist.com>

From: bjohnson at mail.photonet.com

I've got 5000-some percollator files lying around.  It occurred to me that I
could improve Orca's performance by getting rid of the outdated ones,
so, on a test machine, I blew away all the percollator files prior to
today's.  Now Orca is complaining on every pass because the files are gone.
Is this something that will go away the next time Orca does his find-files?
Or am I supposed to keep all this data forever?

I'm running Orca 0.23.  Will upgrade after the new year.

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From tkennedy at newsreal.com  Wed Dec 29 13:48:31 1999
From: tkennedy at newsreal.com (tkennedy at newsreal.com)
Date: 29 Dec 1999 21:48:31 -0000
Subject: [Orca-users] newbie question :)
Message-ID: <946504111.29231@onelist.com>

From: tkennedy at newsreal.com

I am running Orca on a Sun Ultra2.  Solaris 2.6.
RRDTool is version 1.0.9. ( I replaced the 1.0.7.2 version that came w/ orca).
Perl is version 5.005_03.
And Se Toolkit is version 3.1.

I noticed upon installing that the p_netstat_class.se patch that came with
orca didn't work properly.  When I looked at the difference between the 
two files (the patch, and the lines in the se3.1 p_netstat_class.se) I saw that
the changes it was trying to make were minor.

example: 

se3.1-p_netstat_class.se had:
	pnetGLOB_net_ooctets[i]=
	  UD_DIFF(tmp_net.ooctets,    pnetGLOB_save_nets[i].ooctets) / et;

the patch had:
        net_ooctets[i] =
!         (tmp_net.ooctets    - save_nets[i].ooctets) / et;

  being changed to:
        net_ooctets[i] =
!         ud_diff(tmp_net.ooctets,     save_nets[i].ooctets) / et;


The only real difference being the pnetGLOB stuff, and the case change in the
UD_DIFF.

Okay.  SO far so good.
Now I run start the orcallator, and run orca -o -v $orca.cfg.
It takes 2:26 to run.

It generates the HTML just fine, and even builds the PNG images.
However, those images do not contain all the information in the examples.
For instance, under the color code guide, there is not min-max-avg data or
anything.  The graphs /are/ being drawn correctly though.

The errors I get running orca look like:
./bin/orca: warning: cannot create 
	`/data/www/htdocs/orca/moose/o_moose_pageslock,__pagesio-yearly.png': 
	bad format for [G]PRINT in 'Locked  Current: %8.3f %s'

I don't know what the format for [G]PRINT should be, or even what it means,
really.

I thought I would ask before I tear down and start over.

Is the SE3.1FCS toolkit to new to use for this?  Should I retrograde to 
SE3.0?


Thanks In Advance,

-Tim Kennedy
Network Engineer
NewsReal, Inc.
tkennedy at newsreal.com

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From JerryAlexandratos at FirstUSA.com  Wed Dec 29 14:56:53 1999
From: JerryAlexandratos at FirstUSA.com (Alexandratos, Jerry (FUSA))
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 17:56:53 -0500
Subject: [Orca-users] RE: orca question
Message-ID: <6FADB9008705D311BBEB00805FE6B0EE398175@swilnts817.bwp.fusa.com>

From: "Alexandratos, Jerry (FUSA)" <JerryAlexandratos at FirstUSA.com>

If I were a betting man, I'd say that there's something wrong with
the way information is being parsed when the graphs are being generated.

That may explain the varied results.

Unfortunately, my perl isn't up to snuff.  Looking through the code
I couldn't see anything that I (in my limited knowledge) would pinpoint.

8(

	--Jerry

: -----Original Message-----
: From: Vincent Choy [mailto:vchoy at one.net.au]
: Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 5:53 PM
: To: Alexandratos, Jerry (FUSA)
: Subject: RE: orca question
: 
: 
: Oh okay, the reason I am asking you is that my graph on one 
: of my machines
: don't display any  data. I get nill in my data even though I 
: have data in my
: file.
: 
: The headers and ledgends are okay and the rdd displays them correctly.
: 
: If you could help me with this issue, that would be great.
: 
: Regards,
: 
: Vincent Choy
: 
: -----Original Message-----
: From: Alexandratos, Jerry (FUSA) 
: [mailto:JerryAlexandratos at FirstUSA.com]
: Sent: Thursday, 30 
: December 1999 8:48 AM
: To: 'Vincent Choy'
: Subject: RE: orca question
: 
: 
: I'm using the standard orcallator.cfg file.  I haven't modified
: anything yet.  8(
: 
: 	--Jerry
: 
: : -----Original Message-----
: : From: Vincent Choy [mailto:vchoy at one.net.au]
: : Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 4:49 PM
: : To: JerryAlexandratos at FirstUSA.com
: : Subject: orca question
: :
: :
: : I was just wondering what your flat file config looked like?
: : Can you send the data to me as well so I can test it?
: :
: : Thanks,
: :
: : Regards
: :
: : Vincent Choy
: : IVR Team
: : One.Tel Australia
: :
: 

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