From leo.mccoy at kbm1.com  Fri Oct  1 10:02:06 2004
From: leo.mccoy at kbm1.com (leo.mccoy at kbm1.com)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 12:02:06 -0500 
Subject: [Orca-users] Constantly changing number of columns
Message-ID: <89D526B543C2F94BBA9F76E6F18B03B8261B38@MERCURY>

I have a Sun E6800, Solaris 9, using mpxio for HDS 9960 SAN storage,
orcallator.se v1.37, se v3.3

orcallator.se creates a new output file every 5 minutes.  I traced this down
to the number of columns changing constantly.  

I noted that in there are a different number of SAN disk devices in each new
file.

I noted one list user (Dec 03) mentioned having new files every 5 minutes,
but I didn't see a response to his request.

Any help out there?

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From michaelanthony.carroll at ge.com  Sun Oct  3 23:49:37 2004
From: michaelanthony.carroll at ge.com (Carroll, Michael (GE Consumer Finance,
	consultant))
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 16:49:37 +1000
Subject: [Orca-users] URL problems with certain graphs?
Message-ID: <CF0ABD847412764287D81B133CE87A7E01426DE9@MELMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>

Joel,

Did you get any solution to your graphs problem ... I seem be having the same or similar issue you had and I'm using Oracle Snapshot r393.

The filenames being generatated are something like:

	http://<web server>/o_<hostname>_gauge_volatile_disk_runp_((?_c\d+t\d+d\d+)|(?_c\d+d\d+)|(?_[ms]d\d+)|(?_c\d+t([A-Z0-9]{32})d\d+)).html

and the browser doesn't like the question marks (?)  

Regards,

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Midrange - Unix
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From peo at maerskdata.dk  Mon Oct  4 06:56:41 2004
From: peo at maerskdata.dk (Peter O'neil)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 15:56:41 +0200
Subject: [Orca-users] 
	o_<hostname>_gauge_volatile_disk_runp_((?_c\d+t\d+d\d+ ...
Message-ID: <OF51EC9E6E.BEEBFAA6-ONC1256F23.004C266F-C1256F23.004C95AD@maerskdata.dk>





Hi,

Apache returns

Not Found
The requested URL /orcallator_html/o_gauge_volatile_disk_runp_(( was not found on this server.



Apache/1.3.27 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80

It can evidently not handle the '?'  (Solaris is none too happy about the '((' either).

Does anyone have a fix/workaround for this?

Thanks,
Peter




From dragon at raytheon.com  Mon Oct  4 09:54:25 2004
From: dragon at raytheon.com (David Michaels)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:54:25 -0600
Subject: [Orca-users]
	o_<hostname>_gauge_volatile_disk_runp_((?_c\d+t\d+d\d+ ...
In-Reply-To: <OF51EC9E6E.BEEBFAA6-ONC1256F23.004C266F-C1256F23.004C95AD@maerskdata.dk>
References: <OF51EC9E6E.BEEBFAA6-ONC1256F23.004C266F-C1256F23.004C95AD@maerskdata.dk>
Message-ID: <41618041.8000905@raytheon.com>


>Apache returns
>
>Not Found
>The requested URL /orcallator_html/o_gauge_volatile_disk_runp_(( was not found on this server.
>
>
>
>Apache/1.3.27 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
>
>It can evidently not handle the '?'  (Solaris is none too happy about the '((' either).
>  
>


I have Orca 0.27 running, and it generates files with ()'s in them.  
Solaris 8 has no problem with that, nor does my Apache server 1.3.26.

Try browsing directly to the file using file://whatever -- my guess is 
that the HTML code in the corresponding webpage isn't quoting or 
escaping the characters properly.  HTML doesn't like spaces and 
questionmarks and stuff, so it replaces them with %## (%20 is 'space') 
-- if the URL in the <a href=URL> tag isn't quoted (which isn't a HTML 
4.0 compliant way of dealing with odd characters, btw), it could cause 
the parsing of the URL to be botched.

I seem to remember having this problem when I first tried to implement 
the volatile patch in rev 0.27 .. haven't seen it in a while, though I'm 
not running r393 yet.

--Dragon



From prasadjlv at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  6 08:04:50 2004
From: prasadjlv at yahoo.com (prasad jlv)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:04:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Orca-users] Orca License
Message-ID: <20041006150450.304.qmail@web41510.mail.yahoo.com>

Sorry if this question has been asked before...

What is Orca's license model?
GPL, LGPL, Open Software License, or something else?

Thank you,
--prasad




		
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From leo.mccoy at kbm1.com  Wed Oct  6 10:25:54 2004
From: leo.mccoy at kbm1.com (leo.mccoy at kbm1.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:25:54 -0500 
Subject: [Orca-users] Constantly changing number of columns
Message-ID: <89D526B543C2F94BBA9F76E6F18B03B8261B53@MERCURY>

The changing number of devices (which caused a new file to be generated
every 5 min.) was a problem with the device name lengths for my SAN devices
that look like "c3t500060E80000000000007DB200000C6Cd0" because they are
based on the WWN.  I corrected this problem with:
# diff orcallator.se.fixed orcallator.se

582,583c582,583

< char long_name[64];

< char short_name[64];

---

> char long_name[16];

> char short_name[8];

654c654

< char first_name[32];

---

> char first_name[16];

656,658c656,658

< char second_name[32];

< char long_name[64];

< char short_name[64];

---

> char second_name[16];

> char long_name[16];

> char short_name[16];

753c753

< char short_name[64];

---

> char short_name[8];

To get Orca to graph these disks I also had to make changes to
orcallator.cfg.  I added 21 copies of the following plot to the file and
changed the controller number (c0 - c20) so that disks for each controller
were graphed separately.  I didn't have time to figure out how to get a
single plot to do the same thing.  
plot {

title %g Disk Run Percent SAN Controller: c0

source orcallator

data disk_runp_((?:c0t50006[0-9a-zA-Z]+)|(?:c0t5006[0-9a-zA-Z]+))

line_type line2

legend $1

y_legend Run Percent

data_min 0

data_max 100

plot_min 0

plot_width 800

plot_height 300

href http://www.orcaware.com/orca/docs/orcallator.html#disk_run_percent

}

I'd still like to figure out how to group these better since on one host I
have 25 SAN devices mapped to one controller which makes for a pretty icky
and somewhat less useful graph.

-----Original Message-----
From: orca-users-bounces+leo.mccoy=kbm1.com at orcaware.com
[mailto:orca-users-bounces+leo.mccoy=kbm1.com at orcaware.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:02 PM
To: orca-users at orcaware.com
Subject: [Orca-users] Constantly changing number of columns



I have a Sun E6800, Solaris 9, using mpxio for HDS 9960 SAN storage,
orcallator.se v1.37, se v3.3 

orcallator.se creates a new output file every 5 minutes.  I traced this down
to the number of columns changing constantly.  

I noted that in there are a different number of SAN disk devices in each new
file. 

I noted one list user (Dec 03) mentioned having new files every 5 minutes,
but I didn't see a response to his request. 

Any help out there? 

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From modea at upocnetworks.com  Wed Oct  6 11:41:22 2004
From: modea at upocnetworks.com (Michael O'Dea)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:41:22 -0400
Subject: [Orca-users] Open files problem with orca
Message-ID: <D564AA0A3693A74CACB1D9E884E8FBE50121FC00@exchange.upocny.upoc-inc.com>


Hi.

I am currently using 0.27 on a Sun 280r, running solaris 8. It's been working fine until I upgraded (was at 0.27b) now I seem to get this error every time it tries to write the index.html file:

st-servlet1/gauge_disk_runp_c0t6d0.rrd': Too many open files
Creating HTML files in `/opt/orca-0.27/html/'.
bin/orca: warning: cannot create Orca::HTMLFile object: cannot open `/opt/orca-0.27/html/index.html.htm' for writing: Too many open files.
Finding files and setting up data structures at Wed Oct  6 13:58:31 2004.
bin/orca: error: cannot opendir `/': Too many open files
bin/orca: warning: no files found for `find_files' for `group orcallator' in `lib/orcallator.cfg'.
bin/orca: error: cannot opendir `/': Too many open files
bin/orca: warning: no files found for `find_files' for `group qmail_overall' in `lib/orcallator.cfg'.
Current running time is 289:38 minutes.
bin/orca: no data files found.  Make sure `find_files' parameter is set properly.


and then dies.

I have monkied with ulimit (under bash) and have set a open file limit as low as 50, and this problem continues to happen. 

bash-2.05$ ulimit -a
core file size (blocks)     0
data seg size (kbytes)      unlimited
file size (blocks)          unlimited
open files                  50
pipe size (512 bytes)       10
stack size (kbytes)         8192
cpu time (seconds)          unlimited
max user processes          29995
virtual memory (kbytes)     unlimited

I had a similar problem when I went from 0.26 to 0.27b, but resolved it by tweaking ulmit. 

Any suggestions would be helpful.

thanks!
-m


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From warren.chen at gmail.com  Fri Oct  8 08:25:16 2004
From: warren.chen at gmail.com (Wang Chen)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 11:25:16 -0400
Subject: [Orca-users] Disk I/O monitoring
Message-ID: <9df2eeda0410080825630a7428@mail.gmail.com>

I have the following configuration running on Solaris 8 systems:

Orca: Version 0.27
Orcallator: Version 1.37
SE ToolKit: Version 3.3.1

My graph is not include "Disk Maximum & Average Busy", is there any
way I can get this iterm back? Severl items like those about NFS are
not needed, any methord can be take to exclude them. Thank you for
your help.


From Henrik.Beckman at sgu.se  Mon Oct 11 03:59:39 2004
From: Henrik.Beckman at sgu.se (Henrik Beckman)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:59:39 +0200
Subject: [Orca-users] high cpu-usage
Message-ID: <OF00DD6741.EB0FBE1F-ONC1256F2A.003C4004-C1256F2A.003C6946@sgu.se>

Hi

I?m running orca on a Sun ULTRA5 collecting data from 9 solaris machines, 
planning on adding a tenth. Problem is very hig cpu usage (and even higher 
load) on the orca machine, should orca be this cpu heavy or have i 
misconfigured something ?

The recent bump in the graph (attached orca.png) are 2 newly added 
machines, going from 7 to 9 machines.
Clients are supplying data over rsync, every 10,15 or 20 minutes.

TIA
/Henrik
www.sgu.se 
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From kjschmidt at gmail.com  Mon Oct 11 20:29:13 2004
From: kjschmidt at gmail.com (Kevin J. Schmidt)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:29:13 -0400
Subject: [Orca-users] Processing Syslog files with Orca
Message-ID: <84e1f8b604101120292fa9732d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Has anyone used Orca to process Syslog files like /var/log/messages
and so forth?

Thanks!
-- 
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From warren.chen at gmail.com  Tue Oct 12 12:41:15 2004
From: warren.chen at gmail.com (Wang Chen)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:41:15 -0400
Subject: [Orca-users] requirment for client installation
Message-ID: <9df2eeda0410121241647edaa2@mail.gmail.com>

What is the minmumn requirment for client in solaris 8. The client
machine doesn't have the newest version Perl and Gcc. I've tried to
install  The SymbEL Interpreter and orcal-0.27/orcallator/. When I
start the orca by using "S99orcallator start"  I've got

Writing data into /usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/alaudinf003/
Using www access log file /var/apache/logs/access_log
Starting logging
Sending output to nohup.out
1649 Segmentation Fault

Any idea?


From hakanh1 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 13 03:12:33 2004
From: hakanh1 at yahoo.com (HAKAN HALiSCELiK)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 03:12:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Orca-users] Orca installation Error in Aix
Message-ID: <20041013101234.71215.qmail@web52610.mail.yahoo.com>

I am running Orca on Solaris hosts and now on i want
to use it on my Aix hosts but,,
My ERROR is ;

"
install-sh -c -m 0644 SE/3.3.1/tapeinfo.se
/usr/local/lib/SE/3.3.1
cd ..; svnversion . 2>/dev/null
make: 1254-004 The error code from the last command is
127.


Stop.
make: 1254-004 The error code from the last command is
1.

"

? search the forum and Blair writes;

Change
@current_rev="`cd ..; svnversion . 2>/dev/null`"; \ 
with 
@current_rev="`cd ..; svnversion . 2>/dev/null;
true`"; \ 

but That DOESNT SOLVE my problem, ? still got error
What can do more??

Hakan Halis?elik,


		
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From hakanh1 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 14 04:09:57 2004
From: hakanh1 at yahoo.com (HAKAN HALiSCELiK)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 04:09:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Orca-users] Orca installation Error in Aix
Message-ID: <20041014110957.14087.qmail@web52609.mail.yahoo.com>

? solve problem by removing the svnversion check
"
current_rev="`cd ..; svnversion . 2>/dev/null;
true`"; \ 
"
(and related checks)


But i still have problems
i cant use keychain with Aix,
Anyone running Keychain on Aix??

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From pete at stoneyweb.com  Thu Oct 14 14:16:34 2004
From: pete at stoneyweb.com (Pete Stoneberg)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:16:34 -0500
Subject: [Orca-users] file descriptors in linux
Message-ID: <200410142116.i9ELGYkv016063@mail3.orbitz.com>

Does ORCA have a way of gathering file descriptor data from a Redhat system?

Thanks in advance and no I didn't have time to search through the archives.

 

Pete Stoneberg

pete at stoneyweb.com

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From blair at orcaware.com  Fri Oct 15 10:05:30 2004
From: blair at orcaware.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:05:30 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] file descriptors in linux
In-Reply-To: <200410142116.i9ELGYkv016063@mail3.orbitz.com>
References: <200410142116.i9ELGYkv016063@mail3.orbitz.com>
Message-ID: <4170035A.7010704@orcaware.com>

Pete Stoneberg wrote:
> Does ORCA have a way of gathering file descriptor data from a Redhat system?
> 
> Thanks in advance and no I didn?t have time to search through the archives.

Yes, check out procallator which is in the data_gatherers directory in 
the latest Orca snapshot:

http://www.orcaware.com/orca/pub/snapshots/

Blair

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Plots of your system's performance - http://www.orcaware.com/orca/


From blair at orcaware.com  Fri Oct 15 11:55:54 2004
From: blair at orcaware.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:55:54 -0700
Subject: [Orca-users] file descriptors in linux
In-Reply-To: <200410151834.i9FIYWkv025695@mail3.orbitz.com>
References: <200410151834.i9FIYWkv025695@mail3.orbitz.com>
Message-ID: <41701D3A.4070300@orcaware.com>

Pete Stoneberg wrote:
> Thanks Blair.  I'm already using procallator, but this must be a new version
> that has it.  Mine does not.
> 
> pete

[cc-ing orca-users.  Please keep discussions on the mailing list.]

Pete,

Thought you meant data in general from a RedHat box, not file descriptor 
data.  What kind of data are you looking for?

Regards,
Blair

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From nplasczy at tiscali.de  Wed Oct 20 06:22:08 2004
From: nplasczy at tiscali.de (Norbert Plasczyk)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:22:08 +0200
Subject: [Orca-users] gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( Problems
Message-ID: <IJEFJANBDOPANCHCDAPBKEGFCDAA.nplasczy@tiscali.de>

Dear orca-users,
I'm running an orca-installation on a couple of SUN-Solaris 9 (SPARC)
Servers with the latest Patches an have installed the latest
orca-tarball from the orca-homepage.
After succesfully compiling and installing I got perfect outputs
except from 2 of the disk-reports.
I searched the mailing lists and found some hints about it, but I
don't really understand how to fix this behaviour.
(has something to do with oracallator.cfg)
Does anyone have a quick and easy Solution or Workaround?

Here is, what Netscape says:
"
The requested URL /orca/o_zis-app-wirk_gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( was not
found on this server.

Apache/1.3.29 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
"

Regards
Norbert Plasczyk
IT-Consultant at CC CompuNet in Germany



From nobert.plasczyk at tiscali.de  Wed Oct 20 11:01:11 2004
From: nobert.plasczyk at tiscali.de (Norbert Plasczyk)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:01:11 +0200
Subject: AW: [Orca-users] gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( Problems
In-Reply-To: <41768AAB.3020105@nptest.com>
Message-ID: <IJEFJANBDOPANCHCDAPBGEGGCDAA.nobert.plasczyk@tiscali.de>

Thanks Rusty,
but for me It seems to me an annoying problem at least since August.
See:
http://www.orcaware.com/pipermail/orca-users/2004-August/003936.html
There are some following discussions I will not mention here, but
they are describing the same behaviour. No clear solutions available,
and no one who cares.
It must be easy, but where is the handle?

Norbert



-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: Rusty Carruth [mailto:rc1985 at nptest.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Oktober 2004 17:56
An: norbi at stones.com
Betreff: Re: [Orca-users] gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( Problems


Norbert Plasczyk wrote:

> Dear orca-users,
> I'm running an orca-installation on a couple of SUN-Solaris 9 (SPARC)
> Servers with the latest Patches an have installed the latest
> orca-tarball from the orca-homepage.
> After succesfully compiling and installing I got perfect outputs
> except from 2 of the disk-reports.
> I searched the mailing lists and found some hints about it, but I
> don't really understand how to fix this behaviour.
> (has something to do with oracallator.cfg)
> Does anyone have a quick and easy Solution or Workaround?
>
> Here is, what Netscape says:
> "
> The requested URL /orca/o_zis-app-wirk_gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( was not
> found on this server.
>
> Apache/1.3.29 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
> "
>

I'm guessing that there is an open paren (and probably closing one)
in your orcallator.cfg file that ends up getting in to the URL (aka
output file name).

Check for that and let the list know if that was the answer (I've
not cc'd the list, sorry)

rc




From dragon at raytheon.com  Wed Oct 20 13:34:33 2004
From: dragon at raytheon.com (David Michaels)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:34:33 -0600
Subject: AW: [Orca-users] gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( Problems
In-Reply-To: <IJEFJANBDOPANCHCDAPBGEGGCDAA.nobert.plasczyk@tiscali.de>
References: <IJEFJANBDOPANCHCDAPBGEGGCDAA.nobert.plasczyk@tiscali.de>
Message-ID: <4176CBD9.7040501@raytheon.com>

I'm using Orca 0.27 with volatile turned on on Solaris 9 with latest 
patches, and I don't see this problem.  Post the relevant section of the 
config file, and I'll compare.

--Dragon


Norbert Plasczyk wrote:

>Thanks Rusty,
>but for me It seems to me an annoying problem at least since August.
>See:
>http://www.orcaware.com/pipermail/orca-users/2004-August/003936.html
>There are some following discussions I will not mention here, but
>they are describing the same behaviour. No clear solutions available,
>and no one who cares.
>It must be easy, but where is the handle?
>
>Norbert
>
>
>
>-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
>Von: Rusty Carruth [mailto:rc1985 at nptest.com]
>Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Oktober 2004 17:56
>An: norbi at stones.com
>Betreff: Re: [Orca-users] gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( Problems
>
>
>Norbert Plasczyk wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Dear orca-users,
>>I'm running an orca-installation on a couple of SUN-Solaris 9 (SPARC)
>>Servers with the latest Patches an have installed the latest
>>orca-tarball from the orca-homepage.
>>After succesfully compiling and installing I got perfect outputs
>>except from 2 of the disk-reports.
>>I searched the mailing lists and found some hints about it, but I
>>don't really understand how to fix this behaviour.
>>(has something to do with oracallator.cfg)
>>Does anyone have a quick and easy Solution or Workaround?
>>
>>Here is, what Netscape says:
>>"
>>The requested URL /orca/o_zis-app-wirk_gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( was not
>>found on this server.
>>
>>Apache/1.3.29 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
>>"
>>
>>    
>>
>
>I'm guessing that there is an open paren (and probably closing one)
>in your orcallator.cfg file that ends up getting in to the URL (aka
>output file name).
>
>Check for that and let the list know if that was the answer (I've
>not cc'd the list, sorry)
>
>rc
>
>
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>

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From michaelanthony.carroll at ge.com  Wed Oct 20 20:36:38 2004
From: michaelanthony.carroll at ge.com (Carroll, Michael (GE Consumer Finance,
	consultant))
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:36:38 +1000
Subject: [Orca-users] gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( Problems
Message-ID: <CF0ABD847412764287D81B133CE87A7E01426E2B@MELMLVEM02.e2k.ad.ge.com>

Hi Norbert,

I had the exact same problem and the solution is in the orca-dev mailing list:

	http://www.orcaware.com/pipermail/orca-dev/2004-July/000528.html

It's a couple of lines of patch Perl code and it worked great for me.

Regards,

Michael Carroll
Midrange - Unix
GE Money 
Australia & New Zealand

E MichaelAnthony.Carroll at ge.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Norbert Plasczyk [mailto:nplasczy at tiscali.de]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 2004 11:22 PM
To: orca-users at orcaware.com
Subject: [Orca-users] gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( Problems


Dear orca-users,
I'm running an orca-installation on a couple of SUN-Solaris 9 (SPARC)
Servers with the latest Patches an have installed the latest
orca-tarball from the orca-homepage.
After succesfully compiling and installing I got perfect outputs
except from 2 of the disk-reports.
I searched the mailing lists and found some hints about it, but I
don't really understand how to fix this behaviour.
(has something to do with oracallator.cfg)
Does anyone have a quick and easy Solution or Workaround?

Here is, what Netscape says:
"
The requested URL /orca/o_zis-app-wirk_gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( was not
found on this server.

Apache/1.3.29 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
"

Regards
Norbert Plasczyk
IT-Consultant at CC CompuNet in Germany




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From nobert.plasczyk at tiscali.de  Fri Oct 22 02:22:30 2004
From: nobert.plasczyk at tiscali.de (Norbert Plasczyk)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:22:30 +0200
Subject: AW: AW: [Orca-users] gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( Problems
In-Reply-To: <4176CBD9.7040501@raytheon.com>
Message-ID: <IJEFJANBDOPANCHCDAPBMEGICDAA.nobert.plasczyk@tiscali.de>

Thanks David and Michael for your answers,
I have attached the particular section of orcalltor.cfg as you requested. I
will figure out
next week, if Michael's advices works for me. I will inform all then.

Have a nice weekend.
Norbert

plot {
title                   %g Disk Run Percent
source                  orcallator
data
disk_runp_((?:c\d+t\d+d\d+)|(?:c\d+d\d+)|(?:[ms]d\d+)|(?:c\d+t([A-Z0-9]{32})
d\d+))
line_type               line2
legend                  $1
y_legend                Run Percent
data_min                0
data_max                100
plot_min                0
href
http://www.orcaware.com/orca/docs/orcallator.html#disk_run_
percent
}
plot {
title                   %g Disk Service Time
source                  orcallator
data
disk_svct_((?:c\d+t\d+d\d+)|(?:c\d+d\d+)|(?:[ms]d\d+)|(?:c\d+t([A-Z0-9]{32})
d\d+)) / 1000
line_type               line2
legend                  $1
y_legend                Seconds
data_min                0
plot_min                0
}

  -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
  Von: David Michaels [mailto:dragon at raytheon.com]
  Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Oktober 2004 22:35
  An: norbi at stones.com
  Cc: Rusty Carruth; orca-dev at orcaware.com; orca-users at orcaware.com
  Betreff: Re: AW: [Orca-users] gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( Problems


  I'm using Orca 0.27 with volatile turned on on Solaris 9 with latest
patches, and I don't see this problem.  Post the relevant section of the
config file, and I'll compare.

  --Dragon


  Norbert Plasczyk wrote:

Thanks Rusty,
but for me It seems to me an annoying problem at least since August.
See:
http://www.orcaware.com/pipermail/orca-users/2004-August/003936.html
There are some following discussions I will not mention here, but
they are describing the same behaviour. No clear solutions available,
and no one who cares.
It must be easy, but where is the handle?

Norbert



-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: Rusty Carruth [mailto:rc1985 at nptest.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Oktober 2004 17:56
An: norbi at stones.com
Betreff: Re: [Orca-users] gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( Problems


Norbert Plasczyk wrote:

  Dear orca-users,
I'm running an orca-installation on a couple of SUN-Solaris 9 (SPARC)
Servers with the latest Patches an have installed the latest
orca-tarball from the orca-homepage.
After succesfully compiling and installing I got perfect outputs
except from 2 of the disk-reports.
I searched the mailing lists and found some hints about it, but I
don't really understand how to fix this behaviour.
(has something to do with oracallator.cfg)
Does anyone have a quick and easy Solution or Workaround?

Here is, what Netscape says:
"
The requested URL /orca/o_zis-app-wirk_gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( was not
found on this server.

Apache/1.3.29 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
"


I'm guessing that there is an open paren (and probably closing one)
in your orcallator.cfg file that ends up getting in to the URL (aka
output file name).

Check for that and let the list know if that was the answer (I've
not cc'd the list, sorry)

rc


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Orca-users at orcaware.com
http://www.orcaware.com/mailman/listinfo/orca-users


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        NPOESS IS
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From rogerio.teixeira at terra.com.br  Fri Oct 22 07:08:42 2004
From: rogerio.teixeira at terra.com.br (rot)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:08:42 -0300
Subject: [Orca-users] Orca and Windows
Message-ID: <I5ZOMI$3FEBB4BB5898BF64CC3925C4C4E0DF01@terra.com.br>

Hi all,

Anyone have a pkg (orcallator for win) to do capacity planning in
Windows enviroment?

Regards,
Rogerio




From dragon at raytheon.com  Fri Oct 22 10:29:00 2004
From: dragon at raytheon.com (David Michaels)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:29:00 -0600
Subject: [Orca-users] Orca and Windows
In-Reply-To: <I5ZOMI$3FEBB4BB5898BF64CC3925C4C4E0DF01@terra.com.br>
References: <I5ZOMI$3FEBB4BB5898BF64CC3925C4C4E0DF01@terra.com.br>
Message-ID: <4179435C.9050904@raytheon.com>

Windows has its own 'perfmon' kinda data collector that I think comes 
with the OS (the equivalent of orcallator for Sun, kinda).  Orca r398 
has pieces to convert Windows data files to something kosher for RRD.  
Getting the Windows data files to the Sun box for processing can be done 
in several ways (ftp, SMB, NFS, maybe even rsync?).

Or were you looking for something soley for the Windows platform?

--Dragon


rot wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Anyone have a pkg (orcallator for win) to do capacity planning in
>Windows enviroment?
>
>Regards,
>Rogerio
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Orca-users mailing list
>Orca-users at orcaware.com
>http://www.orcaware.com/mailman/listinfo/orca-users
>  
>

-- 

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	*David P. Michaels*
Senior Multi-Disciplined Engineer II W.H.
NPOESS IS
Platform OS Unix
303.344.6840
720.858.5952 fax
720.521.0561 pager
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From nobert.plasczyk at tiscali.de  Mon Oct 25 10:33:50 2004
From: nobert.plasczyk at tiscali.de (Norbert Plasczyk)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:33:50 +0200
Subject: [Orca-users] gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( Problems <THE SOLUTION>
In-Reply-To: <IJEFJANBDOPANCHCDAPBMEGICDAA.nobert.plasczyk@tiscali.de>
Message-ID: <IJEFJANBDOPANCHCDAPBAEHACDAA.nobert.plasczyk@tiscali.de>

Hi all togehter,
Thanks all who helped me. Cheers to Michael, who gave me the pointer to the
solution.
Here is the link ->
http://www.orcaware.com/pipermail/orca-dev/2004-July/000528.html
Within is described how to change SourceFile.pm.
Just patch it with patch(1) , start orca again and all is sane.



Cheers,
Norbert
Here is that piece of code, for those who want to trie it instantly.

--- /opt/monitor/src/orca-snapshot-r379/lib/Orca/SourceFile.pm  Sun Jul
4 13:58:53 2004
+++ SourceFile.pm       Fri Jul 30 09:51:55 2004
@@ -785,12 +785,17 @@
                                       lc($plot->{data_type}[0]),
                                       'volatile',
                                       @{$original_plot->{data}[0]});
+         $all_names_with_subgroup =~ s/\(.*\)//g;
+
       @my_short_rrds = ($all_names_with_subgroup);
-      @names_without_subgroup = (join('_',
-                                      $group_name,
-                                      lc($plot->{data_type}[0]),
-                                      'volatile',
-                                      @{$original_plot->{data}[0]}));
+
+         my $nws= (join('_',
+                  $group_name,
+                  lc($plot->{data_type}[0]),
+                  'volatile',
+                  @{$original_plot->{data}[0]}));
+         $nws =~ s/\(.*\)//g;
+         @names_without_subgroup = ($nws);
     } else {
       $all_names_with_subgroup = join(',', sort @names_with_subgroup);
     }


-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: Norbert Plasczyk [mailto:nobert.plasczyk at tiscali.de]
Gesendet: Freitag, 22. Oktober 2004 11:23
An: David Michaels; norbi at stones.com
Cc: Rusty Carruth; orca-users at orcaware.com; michaelanthony.carroll at ge.com
Betreff: AW: AW: [Orca-users] gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( Problems


Thanks David and Michael for your answers,
I have attached the particular section of orcalltor.cfg as you requested. I
will figure out
next week, if Michael's advices works for me. I will inform all then.

Have a nice weekend.
Norbert

plot {
title                   %g Disk Run Percent
source                  orcallator
data
disk_runp_((?:c\d+t\d+d\d+)|(?:c\d+d\d+)|(?:[ms]d\d+)|(?:c\d+t([A-Z0-9]{32})
d\d+))
line_type               line2
legend                  $1
y_legend                Run Percent
data_min                0
data_max                100
plot_min                0
href
http://www.orcaware.com/orca/docs/orcallator.html#disk_run_
percent
}
plot {
title                   %g Disk Service Time
source                  orcallator
data
disk_svct_((?:c\d+t\d+d\d+)|(?:c\d+d\d+)|(?:[ms]d\d+)|(?:c\d+t([A-Z0-9]{32})
d\d+)) / 1000
line_type               line2
legend                  $1
y_legend                Seconds
data_min                0
plot_min                0
}

-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: David Michaels [mailto:dragon at raytheon.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Oktober 2004 22:35
An: norbi at stones.com
Cc: Rusty Carruth; orca-dev at orcaware.com; orca-users at orcaware.com
Betreff: Re: AW: [Orca-users] gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( Problems


I'm using Orca 0.27 with volatile turned on on Solaris 9 with latest
patches, and I don't see this problem.  Post the relevant section of the
config file, and I'll compare.

--Dragon


Norbert Plasczyk wrote:

Thanks Rusty,
but for me It seems to me an annoying problem at least since August.
See:
http://www.orcaware.com/pipermail/orca-users/2004-August/003936.html
There are some following discussions I will not mention here, but
they are describing the same behaviour. No clear solutions available,
and no one who cares.
It must be easy, but where is the handle?

Norbert



-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: Rusty Carruth [mailto:rc1985 at nptest.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Oktober 2004 17:56
An: norbi at stones.com
Betreff: Re: [Orca-users] gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( Problems


Norbert Plasczyk wrote:


Dear orca-users,
I'm running an orca-installation on a couple of SUN-Solaris 9 (SPARC)
Servers with the latest Patches an have installed the latest
orca-tarball from the orca-homepage.
After succesfully compiling and installing I got perfect outputs
except from 2 of the disk-reports.
I searched the mailing lists and found some hints about it, but I
don't really understand how to fix this behaviour.
(has something to do with oracallator.cfg)
Does anyone have a quick and easy Solution or Workaround?

Here is, what Netscape says:
"
The requested URL /orca/o_zis-app-wirk_gauge_volatile_disk_svct_(( was not
found on this server.

Apache/1.3.29 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
"



I'm guessing that there is an open paren (and probably closing one)
in your orcallator.cfg file that ends up getting in to the URL (aka
output file name).

Check for that and let the list know if that was the answer (I've
not cc'd the list, sorry)

rc


_______________________________________________
Orca-users mailing list
Orca-users at orcaware.com
http://www.orcaware.com/mailman/listinfo/orca-users



--




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Senior Multi-Disciplined Engineer II W.H.
NPOESS IS
Platform OS Unix
303.344.6840
720.858.5952 fax
720.521.0561 pager

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From steve.wood at csfb.com  Mon Oct 25 08:53:56 2004
From: steve.wood at csfb.com (Wood, Steve)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:53:56 +0100
Subject: [Orca-users] Adding a new plot
Message-ID: <12D5F8DE5B2CD211BB3900A0C9D697510BE36F95@slon11306.csfp.co.uk>

All,
	I have a whole LOT of data in my Orca Input Files. I'm only plotting some of
it. I'm wondering if the items that I don't mention in my config file - ie
that don't get plotted - do they still get stored away in the RRD? Or does
ORCA ignore all field headers that aren't requested to be plotted?

	EG I request a new plot for say Column C - bearing in mind I have months of
data sitting around for this plot - but I've only previously been plotting A
and B. Does ORCA go to the Input files to get the plot data or will it already
have it in its RRD?

Col A	Col B	ColC
67	23	56
76	56	87
98	87	65

	If Col C is in the RRD even though its not being plotted then I could in
theory delete my Orca input files and still graph col C right?	


Thanks for any light you can shed!
Steve

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From rogerio.teixeira at terra.com.br  Mon Oct 25 11:00:48 2004
From: rogerio.teixeira at terra.com.br (rot)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:00:48 -0300
Subject: [Orca-users] Orca and Windows
Message-ID: <I65JDC$A477F4607095CD536A9FAE7EF854F2FE@terra.com.br>

Hi,

I know. In fact, i need to know if its possible to do CP in a Windoze
enviroment using Orca, RDD, ? . (Cygwin? Perftool?)

And if exist a FAQ or somenting like that.... 

Regards,
Rogerio

---------- Cabe?alho inicial  -----------

De: "David Michaels" dragon at raytheon.com
Para: "rot" rogerio.teixeira at terra.com.br
C?pia: "orca-users" orca-users at orcaware.com
Data: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:29:00 -0600
Assunto: Re: [Orca-users] Orca and Windows

> Windows has its own 'perfmon' kinda data collector that I think comes 
> with the OS (the equivalent of orcallator for Sun, kinda).  Orca r398 
> has pieces to convert Windows data files to something kosher for RRD.  
> Getting the Windows data files to the Sun box for processing can be
done 
> in several ways (ftp, SMB, NFS, maybe even rsync?).
> 
> Or were you looking for something soley for the Windows platform?
> 
> --Dragon
> 
> 
> rot wrote:
> 
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Anyone have a pkg (orcallator for win) to do capacity planning in
> >Windows enviroment?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Rogerio
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Orca-users mailing list
> >Orca-users at orcaware.com
> >http://www.orcaware.com/mailman/listinfo/orca-users
> >  
> >
> 
> -- 
> 
> 	Raytheon 	
> 
> 	*David P. Michaels*
> Senior Multi-Disciplined Engineer II W.H.
> NPOESS IS
> Platform OS Unix
> 303.344.6840
> 720.858.5952 fax
> 720.521.0561 pager
> dragon at raytheon.com <mailto:dragon at raytheon.com> 	*aka "Dragon"*
> 
> "I wonder what news is doing..."
> 
>  news at newshost <29> ps -fu news      
>  news 18624 12367 2 0:00 makehistory 
> 
> "News is making history."
>       
> 
> 

--rot




From dragon at raytheon.com  Mon Oct 25 13:05:07 2004
From: dragon at raytheon.com (David Michaels)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:05:07 -0600
Subject: [Orca-users] Orca and Windows
In-Reply-To: <I65JDC$A477F4607095CD536A9FAE7EF854F2FE@terra.com.br>
References: <I65JDC$A477F4607095CD536A9FAE7EF854F2FE@terra.com.br>
Message-ID: <417D5C73.8060809@raytheon.com>

rot wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I know. In fact, i need to know if its possible to do CP in a Windoze
>enviroment using Orca, RDD, ? . (Cygwin? Perftool?)
>
>And if exist a FAQ or somenting like that.... 
>


CP (copy, I assume you mean) would require that you have either:
   
    (1)  Windows drive with perfmon info in it mounted on a Unix box.  
This would require Samba (free) or similar functionality on the Unix 
machine.  Not all OS's can /mount/ a Windows drive, even with these 
tools - some only have an ftp-like interface, in which case, CP won't 
help you.  I'm not sure how to get a Windows drive /mounted/ on a 
Solaris OS, but there may be a way.
    (2)  Unix drive where perfmon goes to mounted on the Windows box.  
This would require an NFS client on the Windows box.  Microsoft has a 
(now free) application called SFU (Services For Unix) that will provide 
you with the tools you need.  SFU also includes a service that can share 
Windows drives over NFS, allowing a Unix machine to mount them using 
native NFS client tools.  The latest rev is SFU 3.5.  
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sfu/default.asp  Note that any NFS 
solution on Windows can result in fairly laggy performance across that 
link if you use a URI (\\machinename\hostname kind of reference), 
because of the inner guts of Microsoft's service order list.


If you have Cygwin on the Windows box, you can get/install 'expect' 
(might already be there, even), which is a neat scripting language used 
for dealing with interaction-based programs like FTP.  I'm sure there 
are tons of examples out there on the web somewhere.  You might also be 
able to use expect on the Unix side as a front-end to Samba, or even FTP 
(if there's an FTP server on the Windows side) to periodically fetch the 
files across.  Here's a homepage:  http://expect.nist.gov/

Does this help?

--Dragon